Redskins 2012 Draft Predictions

**TiredofLosing20** · 04-30-2012 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by hoosiers

"Flashy things" that are successful are not criticized. The Skins have done many "flashy things" in the Snyder era that have failed - some spectacularly.

Separately, if others thought there were better uses for the fourth rounder, that's fair, but I think of last year when so many teams had one or two back-up QBs better than the Skins starter - Grossman. It was pathetic, IMO. The Skins have not developed a back-up QB into a starter in a long time - Frerotte - then Humphries and Schroeder before that. In the meantime, we see other teams develop a Kolb, Cassel, or find a Moore, etc. If our back-up QB issue is settled with a competent replacement for the next few years, I have no issue with this pick at all.

Wouldn't the bolded give you further pause about drafting vs signing a backup? Or do you think Shanahan is the fix for that. I haven't been impressed with the Shanahan's so far.

**hoosiers** · 04-30-2012 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by TiredofLosing20

Wouldn't the bolded give you further pause about drafting vs signing a backup? Or do you think Shanahan is the fix for that. I haven't been impressed with the Shanahan's so far.

Not sure if Shanahans can do it or not. McNabb was a weird gamble, Beck was a cheap one. The Shanahans have only been in charge of the Skins for a few years and if they like Cousins then I can accept the investment of a fourth rounder for a quality backup.

I think the Shanahans have done a pretty good job so far. IMO, they faced an enormous talent deficit when they took over and three offseasons later they are still recovering from it, but the gap has been closed considerably.

**Araqnid** · 05-01-2012 10:12 AM

I like the Cousins pick for three reasons:
1) I think it implies that the Shanahans have a few more years to get things "right", which is absolutely the right move.
2) I really like his chances of being a very good backup turned starter in a few years (a la Schaub, Flynn, Kolb or Cassel).

and most importantly:
3) Have you seen RG3 run? It's ludicrous to think he won't spend some time injured. The whole reason for RG3 is so that we wouldn't have to only rely on Grossman at the QB spot.

**Araqnid** · 05-01-2012 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by TiredofLosing20

Wouldn't the bolded give you further pause about drafting vs signing a backup? Or do you think Shanahan is the fix for that. I haven't been impressed with the Shanahan's so far.

For the record, Frerrotte was drafted the same time Shuler was, and beat him out for the job after a few years, which is exactly why you SHOULDN'T have pause.

**TiredofLosing20** · 05-01-2012 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Araqnid

For the record, Frerrotte was drafted the same time Shuler was, and beat him out for the job after a few years, which is exactly why you SHOULDN'T have pause.

He was a seventh round draft choice. If Cousins were a sixth or seventh rounder I don't think there would be as many critics.

**Araqnid** · 05-01-2012 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by TiredofLosing20

He was a seventh round draft choice. If Cousins were a sixth or seventh rounder I don't think there would be as many critics.

Considering a lot of people had Cousins going in the 2nd round and as the 3rd best QB in the draft, there also shouldn't be as many critics.

**TiredofLosing20** · 05-01-2012 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Araqnid

Considering a lot of people had Cousins going in the 2nd round and as the 3rd best QB in the draft, there also shouldn't be as many critics.

I don't know, I think it is fair to wonder why you would expend a 4th round pick for a guy you hope never sees the field regardless of the grade. Is the QB job an open competition?

**AgentOrange** · 05-01-2012 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Araqnid

Considering a lot of people had Cousins going in the 2nd round and as the 3rd best QB in the draft, there also shouldn't be as many critics.

They aren't too many critics of the player and when he was drafted. It was who drafted him. I just think its a huge head scratcher to draft a back up QB the same year you drafted your franchise QB. Esp. considering it was a 4th round pick.

**JDubs** · 05-01-2012 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by TiredofLosing20

I don't know, I think it is fair to wonder why you would expend a 4th round pick for a guy you hope never sees the field regardless of the grade. Is the QB job an open competition?

You don't prepare for the best case scenario. You prepare for the worst. Do you think car insurance is a bad idea? Life insurance? You hope you won't need it, but you probably will (definitely will for life insurance). Shanahan saw value at the QB position and pulled the trigger. Sure, you can question it, but he's building his system. He knows best when it comes to the expenditure of resources.

And if he is wrong enough times, he'll get fired. So whatever...

**Don Quixote** · 05-01-2012 03:56 PM

Cousins is a good insurance policy guy, and I feel they want to be rid of Grossman as soon as possible. So, instead of waiting until next year's draft to get someone in the way low rounds who probably wouldn't be ready to do anything, they got Cousins this year in the fourth, and give him some time in the organization to season. Yes, once again, they spent a lot of draft wealth on Griffin, but if he's worth that much, his confidence won't be so shaky as to not be able to handle this, as it appears to me to be a non-issue. See also the talent gap issue between starter and backup that usually prevails in Washington.

**allstar1579** · 05-01-2012 03:59 PM

Lots of overreaction on Cousins. Like Don said, it's a great insurance policy, and not a bad move to keep a more developing QB at QB3 for a year or two and see how he does. Either you have your backup for the next 5 years, or you have a trade chip in a couple seasons for something in the 1st-3rd round. A 4th rounder flier for a possible 1-3rd pick later seems like an ok risk. I don't think they had anyone on their board they liked in that range and just took a gamble on a backup QB instead of trading down again. No real news here.

**TiredofLosing20** · 05-01-2012 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by JDubs

You don't prepare for the best case scenario. You prepare for the worst. Do you think car insurance is a bad idea? Life insurance? You hope you won't need it, but you probably will (definitely will for life insurance). Shanahan saw value at the QB position and pulled the trigger. Sure, you can question it, but he's building his system. He knows best when it comes to the expenditure of resources.

And if he is wrong enough times, he'll get fired. So whatever...

Yeah, hey I get it. My guess is that he was the highest player on their board at that time. And sure insurance policies are fantastic but as much as is being invested in RGIII (both draft picks and what will be money), you would think their focus would be on doing everything possible to making him successful not using their limited resources (even more limited due to what they gave up) on an insurance policy.

Ultimately, you are right. Shanahan's future now relies on RGIII's success. It is all fodder and will sort itself out in the next few years. But I think it is fair to question the pick.

**AgentOrange** · 05-01-2012 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Don Quixote

Cousins is a good insurance policy guy, and I feel they want to be rid of Grossman as soon as possible. So, instead of waiting until next year's draft to get someone in the way low rounds who probably wouldn't be ready to do anything, they got Cousins this year in the fourth, and give him some time in the organization to season. Yes, once again, they spent a lot of draft wealth on Griffin, but if he's worth that much, his confidence won't be so shaky as to not be able to handle this, as it appears to me to be a non-issue. See also the talent gap issue between starter and backup that usually prevails in Washington.

To me, I am not worried about his confidence. I am looking at a squad (Redskins) that have a lot of holes that need to be filled. I can understand if he was BPA at the time, I am just not sure it was the smartest thing to do. Its not like they are set at most positions and backup QB was a glaring need. It really wasn't. That is why people are questioning the move. I feel they have a legit concern with it.

**TiredofLosing20** · 05-01-2012 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by AgentOrange

I am looking at a squad (Redskins) that have a lot of holes that need to be filled.

And depleted resources to fill those holes. Basically, they have used 3 first round picks, a second round pick and a 4th round pick to fill 2 QB spots, one of which they hope never plays.

**hoosiers** · 05-02-2012 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by TiredofLosing20

And depleted resources to fill those holes. Basically, they have used 3 first round picks, a second round pick and a 4th round pick to fill 2 QB spots, one of which they hope never plays.

Every team invests something in a backup QB that they hope never plays, no?

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