Stoglin Leaving?

**Tony-OH** · 04-30-2012 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by ccbird

It's nowhere near the blow some are making it out to be. Will hurt early in the year but by mid Jan we will be a pretty good team. Stoglin was the Carmelo of MD basketball. He took too many shots and the ball generally stopped moving when he touched it. When he was on he could carry a team, when he was off he hurt the team. Now last year, with our lack of talent who really cares if he didn't play good team ball because we weren't going to win anyway. It still drove Turg nuts, but ultimately it didn't make a difference. This year would have had to be different. I believe in the incoming freshmen and believe eventually they will make up for the loss of Stoglin.

ALl you need to know is the difference between how Stoglin and Parker have handled there suspensions. Parker transfers and goes out writing a letter praising Turg, the program, and the University. We see how Stoglin is apparently handling it with his tweets. Maturity vs immaturty, responsibility vs irresponsibility. There is no way Stoglin and Turg would have made this work next year. Stoglin is just too selfish and hard-headed. Better to wipe the slate clean and have good chemistry from the very beginning. We'll be better in the long run.

I agree with this 100%. Stoglin was a very good scorer when he was on, but he was a selfish player and with the influx of talent coming in, the program is better off in the long run without him.

**Brendan25** · 04-30-2012 10:54 AM

We have the depth to do well this year without him. Faust is going to become a star this year. SCJ can be that deep threat from beyond the arc. We have plenty of big men to cause damage down low. Turgeon will do well this year with this Terps team.

**Dr. FLK** · 04-30-2012 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Pedro Cerrano

He was facing a year long suspension for violating the student-athlete code of conduct so he's leaving.

Colossal blow to the program. Just speechless.

ST980 just said that Parker was also facing a year-long suspension for the code of conduct. I wonder what was going on...

**Pedro Cerrano** · 04-30-2012 11:11 AM

Guessing drugs or grades but really not sure.

**glenn__davis** · 04-30-2012 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Dr. FLK

ST980 just said that Parker was also facing a year-long suspension for the code of conduct. I wonder what was going on...

It was pretty widely rumored that Parker enjoyed puffing the magic dragon.

(Not trying to spread rumors, I know nothing about it, just stuff I've read on various boards.)

**gallden** · 04-30-2012 11:27 AM

Apparently Stoglin failed three drug tests. And Howard got arrested Saturday night.

**jonesing4pie** · 04-30-2012 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by gallden

Apparently Stoglin failed three drug tests. And Howard got arrested Saturday night.

Wow. Anyone who doesn't think losing Stogs is a big deal is crazy. I mean this guy carried us last year. I understand we have a big recruiting class but Allen and SCJ can't be expected to do everything. Faust is ideal at the wing and shouldn't have to be running any point at all and with Stogs gone and if Howard got arrested, Faust will still be running the point some. This is awful. Was hoping nothing like this would happen this offseason.

**Floater** · 04-30-2012 01:51 PM

Oh well, I don't want that attitude on my team. I want team players and players who really care. Have fun in Siberia.

**Dr. FLK** · 04-30-2012 02:54 PM

He also retweeted this: "@tstoglin12 will be very missed in CP! One day UMD will get it together and keep talent around...". The Terps will keep talent around? Like this is their fault? Just when I thought I couldn't hate this guy anymore...

**clapdiddy** · 04-30-2012 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. FLK

He also retweeted this: "@tstoglin12 will be very missed in CP! One day UMD will get it together and keep talent around...". The Terps will keep talent around? Like this is their fault? Just when I thought I couldn't hate this guy anymore...

So...a guy has somehow violated team rules, and they are going to "keep talent around"? Wow.

**Lucky Jim** · 04-30-2012 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. FLK

He also retweeted this: "@tstoglin12 will be very missed in CP! One day UMD will get it together and keep talent around...". The Terps will keep talent around? Like this is their fault? Just when I thought I couldn't hate this guy anymore...

You "hate" a 20 year old kid?

**Floater** · 04-30-2012 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Lucky Jim

You "hate" a 20 year old kid?

I think he hates the way he carries himself and his attitude, along with his immaturity. I certainly hate all of those things about him, and now he is out of a college degree and a real chance at an NBA career.

**Lucky Jim** · 04-30-2012 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Floater

I certainly hate all of those things about him, and now he is out of a college degree and a real chance at an NBA career.

Clearly the appropriate karmic punishment for offending your refined sensibilities.

**Floater** · 04-30-2012 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Lucky Jim

Clearly the appropriate karmic punishment for offending your refined sensibilities.

Punishment that he can only blame himself for because of his immature actions.

**Lucky Jim** · 04-30-2012 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Floater

Punishment that he can only blame himself for because of his immature actions.

I don't disagree that it's his own fault. But thanks for re-emphasizing the obvious. Any other lessons you want to impart (other than, you know, don't act like a punk or you'll chase us off your yard)?

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