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05-01-2012 03:45 PM #46
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Andino is sporting a .750 OPS, but he's doing it w/ a .400 BABIP. He'll meet regression soon.
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05-01-2012 03:47 PM #47
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Another AM special.
Originally Posted by clapdiddy
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05-01-2012 04:20 PM #48
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Roberts WAS a better hitter. Roberts WAS a better hitter. Originally Posted by Mayor McCheese
Roberts is a better hitter.
Roberts is a better fielder.
end of discussion
He's aged. I think Andino is the better player right now. Roberts should not be given his job back.
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05-01-2012 04:24 PM #49
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For all of you who think Dino can simply slide into playing 3b regularly and effectively, I just disagree. He's going to need work over there at 3b. Cal once said that it takes a full year to learn how to play 3b after he was moved there late in his career.
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05-01-2012 04:27 PM #50
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The phsyical/skill differences between Cal (at the time of the move) and Andino are enormous. Originally Posted by jtschrei
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05-01-2012 04:29 PM #51
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Andino should be a supersub in an ideal world, but not in favor of B-Rob. I don't think Roberts is an everyday player anymore. He's fragile and will need days off if/when he comes back.
If you look at his stats, 2011 was a breakout type year for him and he still only had an OPS of .670. As others have pointed out his .760 this year is aided by a really high BABIP. Even if you expect more progression, Andino is nothing more than a .700 OPS type of a player. That's solid, but not necessarily starter worthy. He doesn't hurt us as a starter, but if you are given an opportunity to upgrade, I don't see why you wouldn't.
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05-01-2012 04:30 PM #52
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Maybe, but more importantly, he can be blindfolded and be better than Reynolds or Betemit defensively. Originally Posted by Lucky Jim
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05-01-2012 04:44 PM #53
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Roberts in 2009 was a better hitter and fielder...an aging rusty post concussion Roberts may not be close to the level Andino is at. Plus I can't imagine Roberts playing on the big squad before the all star break. Originally Posted by Mayor McCheese
Roberts is a better hitter.
Roberts is a better fielder.
end of discussion
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05-01-2012 05:00 PM #54
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Fangraphs has Roberts at -2.9 fielding in '09, they have Andino at 1.2 last season. Originally Posted by osfan83
Baseball reference has Roberts at -1.4 DWAR in '09, they have Andino at .8 DWAR last season.
Roberts has not been an asset on defense since '07.
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05-01-2012 05:04 PM #55
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I stand corrected. Originally Posted by Can_of_corn
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05-01-2012 05:11 PM #56
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Sorry, Mayor McCheese. You don't decide when discussions are over. 7 other posters have easily rebutted your ......... your dig on Andino. I almost said "your compliment of Roberts," but it was clear just what you were doing when you made your post. Originally Posted by Mayor McCheese
Roberts is a better hitter.
Roberts is a better fielder.
End of discussion.
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05-01-2012 05:41 PM #57
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I love Robert Andino
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05-01-2012 06:14 PM #58
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I think a lot of the Andino-bashers are missing the point. Unless Buck starts huffing glue or Andino nose-dives into a massive slump, there's no way he pulls Andino out of the lineup even for a 100%, returned-to-2009-form Roberts.
Reynolds and/or Johnson are much more likely to get scaled back, coupled with giving Hardy more days off. Even if Reynolds has a year like he did last year and catches fire, Andino will still get plenty of playing time by switching with Reynolds and Betemit between 3B and DH, and spelling Hardy and BRob. Plenty of reps there. Flaherty may suffer a bit but probably won't get much fewer opportunities than he's currently getting.
And besides, as many have said, the odds of BRob returning to form are slim. There's nothing to see here folks, and no controversy. Move along.
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05-02-2012 08:03 AM #59
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I like this post... There's quite a few O's on the team that I really enjoy watching... In fact, this year Gregg is really the only player that makes me roll my eyes. But Andino is especially fun. Perhaps it's his feistiness. Or his productivity? Originally Posted by oriolefan1035
Bottom line... I'm a huge fan of players that are over looked, or passed on, that ignite and play well. He had that awesome September last season... For me, it was totally unexpected and tons of fun to watch. And it really has translated into a good start to this young season. He hustles. He looks legitimately excited to be playing... He makes heads-up plays. I know those are cliche, but you know what I mean. I'm a big Andino fan.
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05-02-2012 08:17 AM #60
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This is the credited response. Originally Posted by AgentOrange
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