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10-06-2012 02:44 PM #1
The Orioles Won Because They Didn't...
...play the Cardinals. Among other reasons. As soon as the 8th inning infield fly was called by Holbrook, I immediately thought...NO IT'S JEFFREY MAIER ALL OVER AGAIN! THE HORROR!
Then I realized I was watching the wrong game.
10-06-2012 02:49 PM #2
That call was nowhere near as bad as the Maier call. Not even remotely close. People are really overreacting to the infield fly rule call.
10-06-2012 02:53 PM #3
The preceding message was written tongue-in-cheek. Why do you think the Orioles won because of what they didn't do?
Last edited by 25 Nuggets; 10-06-2012 at 02:57 PM.
10-06-2012 04:03 PM #4
Braves fans got screwed but I have a feeling that if something like that happened at Camden Yards, our fans wouldn't throw things on the field like that. I lost absolutely all respect I had for Braves fans last night. Completely disgraceful.
10-06-2012 04:08 PM #5
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10-06-2012 04:34 PM #8
Also, the fact that both runners, A) were several steps off of the bag, and not actually on the bag, and, B) both made it easily to the next bases without being forced out is further proof/vindication of just how horrible of a call it was.
Last edited by OFFNY; 10-06-2012 at 04:36 PM.
10-06-2012 04:42 PM #9
I was on another site, and when someone pointed this out (that an umpire could technically call the infield-fly rule at the warning track), I couldn't believe it. I was sure that the rule was that it the ball needed to be either in the infield, or only a few steps beyond the infield regardless of whether or not an infielder or an outfielder was closest to the ball. In some cases, infielders play well into the outfield while the pitcher is pitching on shifts for certain hitters (like Jim Thome, Mark Teixeira, etc.) I really was shocked to read it written the way that it was/is.
10-06-2012 04:58 PM #10
Also, I think Cal was the only one to bring this up last night: the whole reason the rule exists is to keep infielders from intentionally dropping a pop up and creating a situation where the runners have no options and it's an almost automatic double play. That was the furtherest thing from anyone's mind when that play developed. At the very least, invoking the rule in that situation clearly violated the spirit of the rule if not the letter.
Last edited by DrungoHazewood; 10-06-2012 at 05:01 PM.
10-06-2012 05:28 PM #11
Smoltz made a good point saying that the OF ump didn't have to move to make that call. If it's a regular season game, then the 3b ump runs out to LF to make the call, giving him a better perception of how deep the ball was.
Also, it looks like the ump was very late on the call. That call has to be made early to give warning to the runner.
It was a poor call, but that didn't cost the braves the game.
10-06-2012 05:36 PM #12
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This gentleman says the ump made the right call:
Others, including Harold Reynolds after the game, said the same.
Maybe MLB should ditch the extra umpires for postseason.
10-06-2012 06:19 PM #13
It's like the balk rule. Both rules can be distilled down to "don't do weird things deceive the baserunner." But there's so much leeway for interpretation in each that bizarre calls sometimes crop up that have absolutely nothing to do with deceiving the baserunner.
10-06-2012 07:31 PM #14
I have failed.
Mods, please move or merge this thread to the appropriate forum.