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    Duquette says orioles need to continue to look for a No. 1 starter

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    Duquette says #orioles need to continue to look for a No. 1 starter. "But we might have a couple right here." #bundy #gausman


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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdland View Post
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    Duquette says #orioles need to continue to look for a No. 1 starter. "But we might have a couple right here." #bundy #gausman
    AKA "We are going to wait and see if our guys can be our #1 starter"

    Not even sure why he would say this to get some peoples hopes up to be honest.

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    Always look to upgrade but I could see Tillman being a number one next year. He certainly pitched that way for more than a 1/3 of a season. Gonzalez pitched at a solid number 2-3 level with 3 amazing starts this year against the Yankees. Hammel pitched great last year till his knee gave out. This guy is solid also. Chen is a solid number 3. Saunders a decent number 4 or 5. Suddenly the Orioles just might have solid pitching. Not even thinking about Gausman or Bundy. Those guys are just gravy.

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    Roch Kubatko ‏@masnRoch

    Asked if he might go after a big-ticket FA this winter, Duquette said a Joe Saunders is more likely the type of acquisition he would make

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    AKA the owner said don't go crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdland View Post
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    Asked if he might go after a big-ticket FA this winter, Duquette said a Joe Saunders is more likely the type of acquisition he would make
    Which is what I've said since July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdland View Post
    AKA the owner said don't go crazy.
    Hahahahaha some of the stuff you say really makes me laugh. I am so glad you aren't running the Orioles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan25 View Post
    Hahahahaha some of the stuff you say really makes me laugh. I am so glad you aren't running the Orioles.
    Why ? 2 million fans go to the game and MASN ratings are crazy and he wont add payroll seems right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdland View Post
    AKA the owner said don't go crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdland View Post
    Why ? 2 million fans go to the game and MASN ratings are crazy and he wont add payroll seems right.
    We are going to have a higher payroll already next year just by keeping the players that we already have on our roster. Not including any additional small signings that we make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan25 View Post
    We are going to have a higher payroll already next year just by keeping the players that we already have on our roster. Not including any additional small signings that we make.
    No reason in the world the O's cant carry a 125m payroll in 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdland View Post
    No reason in the world the O's cant carry a 125m payroll in 2013.
    We will have very close to a 125m payroll next year without getting Greinke. Do you have any idea how much we already have invested into next year? Any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan25 View Post
    We will have very close to a 125m payroll next year without getting Greinke. Do you have any idea how much we already have invested into next year? Any?
    From Mlbtraderumors
    2013 Contract Issues: Baltimore Orioles
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [May 28 at 12:50pm CST]
    The Orioles are next in MLBTR’s 2013 Contract Issues series:

    Eligible For Free Agency (3)

    •Nick Johnson - Johnson has four home runs already, but his injury history means he's a candidate for another incentive-based contract. He won't obtain a qualifying offer from the Orioles, nor will any of the team's other free agents.
    •Endy Chavez - Chavez, who is now on the disabled list, has played in just 20 games and has an OPS below .350.
    •Ronny Paulino - Paulino, 31, continues to find work as a backup catcher. He's likely to sign a one-year deal next offseason.
    Contract Options (4)

    •Mark Reynolds: $11MM club option with a $500K buyout. Reynolds has two homers and a .661 OPS, so the Orioles figure to decline this option.
    •Kevin Gregg: $6MM club option vests with 50 games finished in 2012. Gregg isn't a $6MM pitcher, so the Orioles can be expected to decline this option assuming it doesn't vest.
    •Matt Lindstrom: $4MM club option with a $200K buyout. Lindstrom has pitched well in his first 13 outings. If he keeps this up, the Orioles will be tempted by this option following the season.
    •Luis Ayala: $1MM club option with a $100K buyout. Ayala has been effective through 24 1/3 innings, as his 1.85 ERA shows. Expect the Orioles to exercise this option if the right-hander's success continues.
    Arbitration Eligible (13)

    •First time: Brian Matusz, Tommy Hunter, Nolan Reimold, Taylor Teagarden, Chris Davis, Troy Patton, Jason Berken, Matt Wieters
    •Second time: Robert Andino, Dana Eveland
    •Third time: Jim Johnson, Darren O'Day
    •Fourth time: Jason Hammel
    The Orioles are up against a large class or arbitration eligible players led by first-timers such as Wieters. The switch-hitting catcher could see his salary rise to $4MM or so next season if his strong platform year continues. Johnson's on track for a major raise and Hammel will enjoy a pay increase as well. Eveland, on the other hand, could be non-tendered. Berken has already been up and down from Triple-A twice, but he needs another stint in the Major Leagues to assure himself of arbitration eligibility.

    2013 Payroll Obligation

    The Orioles have committed $53MM to next year's payroll, according to Cot's Baseball Contracts. They've spent approximately $85MM in both of the past two seasons, which means executive VP of baseball operations Dan Duquette could have as much as $30MM or so to work with in the offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan25 View Post
    We will have very close to a 125m payroll next year without getting Greinke. Do you have any idea how much we already have invested into next year? Any?
    What? Is 90M close to 125M?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdland View Post
    From Mlbtraderumors
    2013 Contract Issues: Baltimore Orioles
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [May 28 at 12:50pm CST]
    The Orioles are next in MLBTR’s 2013 Contract Issues series:

    Eligible For Free Agency (3)

    •Nick Johnson - Johnson has four home runs already, but his injury history means he's a candidate for another incentive-based contract. He won't obtain a qualifying offer from the Orioles, nor will any of the team's other free agents.
    •Endy Chavez - Chavez, who is now on the disabled list, has played in just 20 games and has an OPS below .350.
    •Ronny Paulino - Paulino, 31, continues to find work as a backup catcher. He's likely to sign a one-year deal next offseason.
    Contract Options (4)

    •Mark Reynolds: $11MM club option with a $500K buyout. Reynolds has two homers and a .661 OPS, so the Orioles figure to decline this option.
    •Kevin Gregg: $6MM club option vests with 50 games finished in 2012. Gregg isn't a $6MM pitcher, so the Orioles can be expected to decline this option assuming it doesn't vest.
    •Matt Lindstrom: $4MM club option with a $200K buyout. Lindstrom has pitched well in his first 13 outings. If he keeps this up, the Orioles will be tempted by this option following the season.
    •Luis Ayala: $1MM club option with a $100K buyout. Ayala has been effective through 24 1/3 innings, as his 1.85 ERA shows. Expect the Orioles to exercise this option if the right-hander's success continues.
    Arbitration Eligible (13)

    •First time: Brian Matusz, Tommy Hunter, Nolan Reimold, Taylor Teagarden, Chris Davis, Troy Patton, Jason Berken, Matt Wieters
    •Second time: Robert Andino, Dana Eveland
    •Third time: Jim Johnson, Darren O'Day
    •Fourth time: Jason Hammel
    The Orioles are up against a large class or arbitration eligible players led by first-timers such as Wieters. The switch-hitting catcher could see his salary rise to $4MM or so next season if his strong platform year continues. Johnson's on track for a major raise and Hammel will enjoy a pay increase as well. Eveland, on the other hand, could be non-tendered. Berken has already been up and down from Triple-A twice, but he needs another stint in the Major Leagues to assure himself of arbitration eligibility.

    2013 Payroll Obligation

    The Orioles have committed $53MM to next year's payroll, according to Cot's Baseball Contracts. They've spent approximately $85MM in both of the past two seasons, which means executive VP of baseball operations Dan Duquette could have as much as $30MM or so to work with in the offseason.
    53M + Reynolds option + Ayala option = 65M

    65M + arbitration = around 96M

    We are VERY close to 100M already next year after arbitration + Reynolds option.

    DD is going to make some moves this year. Maybe not 25M worth of moves, but probably 115-120M next year is what I'm thinking. You really think that the extra 10M that you want them to spend is the difference between Angelos being cheap and not being cheap?

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