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    Michael Bourn signs with Cleveland 4 year 48 million

    With an otion for 17' at 12 mill, I personally would of loved to seen the O's make a move for him. He signed way cheaper than what I thought he was holding out for, he would of been nice in center or left and a top lead off guy for our line-up. It would of also let us move Hardy down to a more natural spot in the line-up, something that Buck has been trying to do for awhile now . On a side note the Indians have had a nice off-season, Bourn, Reynolds,Swisher,Trevor Bauer, Drew Stubbs, and Brett Myers, they might give the Tigers some competition.This is what our line-up could of looked like with the addition of Bourn
    CF/LF- Bourn
    2B- Roberts
    RF- Markakis
    CF/LF - Jones
    1B- Davis
    C- Wieters
    SS-Hardy
    DH - Betemit/Reimold
    3B-Machado
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    Note that it is an option that vests with 550 PA's in the fourth year, which is fairly attainable assuming health.

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    Frustrating that Cleveland can be a major player in free agency but the O's can only sign McClouth.

    Cleveland has some nice pieces

    Reynolds 34HR, 95 RBI, .807 OPS (career averages) for 6 million
    Swisher .830 career OPS
    Bourn, statistically best defensive CF'er in baseball, 50 SB/year
    Cabrera at SS

    Starting pitching is still weak but they will score more runs than the O's

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    Very aggravating that they get Swisher and Bourn....and we don't get anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OsnRavensallday View Post
    With an otion for 17' at 12 mill, I personally would of loved to seen the O's make a move for him. He signed way cheaper than what I thought he was holding out for, he would of been nice in center or left and a top lead off guy for our line-up. It would of also let us move Hardy down to a more natural spot in the line-up, something that Buck has been trying to do for awhile now . On a side note the Indians have had a nice off-season, Bourn, Reynolds,Swisher,Trevor Bauer, Drew Stubbs, and Brett Myers, they might give the Tigers some competition.This is what our line-up could of looked like with the addition of Bourn
    CF/LF- Bourn
    2B- Roberts
    RF- Markakis
    CF/LF - Jones
    1B- Davis
    C- Wieters
    SS-Hardy
    DH - Betemit/Reimold
    3B-Machado
    The years/money was reasonable, but you have to keep in mind that Cleveland also lost a first-round pick by signing Michael Bourn. Also, as nice as it would be to add Bourn to our outfield, I would want to send our franchise player (Adam Jones) the wrong message by signing another centerfielder right after he agreed to stay with us long term for less money. Jones would have easily got a $120+ million contract if he signed elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ba9oriole View Post
    The years/money was reasonable, but you have to keep in mind that Cleveland also lost a first-round pick by signing Michael Bourn. Also, as nice as it would be to add Bourn to our outfield, I would want to send our franchise player (Adam Jones) the wrong message by signing another centerfielder right after he agreed to stay with us long term for less money. Jones would have easily got a $120+ million contract if he signed elsewhere.
    They lost a pick for Swisher too.

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    With as little interest as there seemed to be on the market, I'm actually surprised he wound up with that much. That Boras, he does good work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ba9oriole View Post
    The years/money was reasonable, but you have to keep in mind that Cleveland also lost a first-round pick by signing Michael Bourn. Also, as nice as it would be to add Bourn to our outfield, I would want to send our franchise player (Adam Jones) the wrong message by signing another centerfielder right after he agreed to stay with us long term for less money. Jones would have easily got a $120+ million contract if he signed elsewhere.
    Cleveland actually forfeited their competitive balance pick, #69 overall, for Bourn. They gave up the second round pick for Swisher. Their first round pick was protected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webbrick2010 View Post
    Frustrating that Cleveland can be a major player in free agency but the O's can only sign McClouth.
    A small part of my Orioles fandom dies every time signings like this are announced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Janowski View Post
    A small part of my Orioles fandom dies every time signings like this are announced.
    Do you think you would feel this way as a fan of all of the other 29 teams that didn't sign Bourn?

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    We have 4 good outfielders, Jones, Markakis, Reimold, and McLouth. Bourn has nowhere to play. Not much power, good OBP, but I prefer power. Pass and rightly so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazysilver03 View Post
    Cleveland actually forfeited their competitive balance pick, #69 overall, for Bourn. They gave up the second round pick for Swisher. Their first round pick was protected.
    One of the costs of having a good season is that you lose a higher (first round) pick if you sign a top free agent. We haven't had that problem in a while.

    I knew Bourn wouldn't get the ridiculous money some were suggesting. I think Cleveland did well with this deal.

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    Don't fret O's fans. Ownership will invest in free agency when the MASN money starts rolling in. Strike that, I meant to say when the team is competitive. Wait, no, that's not right anymore, either. I meant to say when the time and market are right. That's the official company line, now, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    Don't fret O's fans. Ownership will invest in free agency when the MASN money starts rolling in. Strike that, I meant to say when the team is competitive. Wait, no, that's not right anymore, either. I meant to say when the time and market are right. That's the official company line, now, right?
    Or when a player is a clear upgrade over what we have. I understand your frustration, but not when it comes to Michael Bourn. Bourn would not be worth 12 million a year as a left fielder and he and Jones would not be worth their combined salaries if Jones had to play left field. Also, potentially Nolan Reimold could outperform Bourn offensively this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MurphDogg View Post
    Do you think you would feel this way as a fan of all of the other 29 teams that didn't sign Bourn?
    No, but all the other teams spend as much (and in some cases more) than what their budget allows, and the teams that actually are limited in how much they can spend make trades to acquire high level talent.

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