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10-26-2013 10:03 PM #1Released Released
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Hope for Matusz?
Do you have hope for Matusz?
He is only 26, a LHP and he's 6'4.
I think if we can get something for him we pull the trigger, but I also think Matusz can become dominant. We saw how dominate he could be in Aug and Sept of 2010.
The one reason why I think he can be is because of his control. Unlike Arrieta, Matusz can spot pitches, and his change up is devastating. I think the Orioles need to give him another good look.
That's just me, what say you?
10-26-2013 10:06 PM #2
If he makes it as a starter it won't be with the O's.
He is getting expensive for his role on the team and I think it might be in the best interests of both parties if a deal with another team could be found.
10-26-2013 10:06 PM #3
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What the hell happened to his change-up? He threw it all the time early in his career along with a pretty good slider/curve...now, not so much. Maybe a change in the pitching coach could help, Buck should be looking at him as a starter this year - even if he ends up back in the bullpen.
10-26-2013 10:07 PM #4
It's time for the Orioles and the fans to move on from the calvary.
10-27-2013 12:10 AM #5
Yeah, Matusz's success as a starter came a long time ago. I just don't see it happening.
10-27-2013 12:15 AM #6
Not much hope until I see a consistent changeup and I haven't seen one in 3 years.
10-27-2013 02:52 AM #7Aberdeen
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In 2009 he was 11-2 in the minors. The next year he was 10-12 on a terrible Orioles team. He has the ability to start.
Being the lefty specialist in the bullpen, we did not see much of him last year. In ST however he had 4 starts and a 4.00 ERA. I don't think that is terrible. I think he would have went further in the rotation this year than Arrietta or Britton.
Matusz's biggest issue is he cannot get right handers out consistently in recent history. I am feeling that since has been in the bullpen the last season and a half, that has not gotten better.
I think Brian thinks he can be a starter, and will not be happy until he is convinced otherwise.
What I would do is give him a chance to win the 5 spot in the rotation in ST. If he does not happen, send him to the minors to start the year and see if he can work it out.
We can get a cheaper lefty specialist elsewhere, and if he pans out as a starter, we could have another Tillman type player on our hands.
I guess I am just tired of seeing the Orioles constantly flame out on high draft pick pitchers, and would love to see one turn it around. I do think the way the organization has become so quick to send players up and down, or in Matusz's case bury them in the bullpen stunts their development.
10-27-2013 05:24 AM #8Plus Member since 11/03 Hall of Fame
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One of the biggest thing I would be look for in a pitching coach is someone that can help pitchers add a pitch at the major league level. Matusz, Hunter, Patton, and O'Day all had problems with getting one side out or the other.
Matusz with his current pitches only stays with the O's for one more year. He is an effective LOOGY. But Chris Jones, Jason Gurka, Tim Berry are all lefties that are coming. They will be cheaper with one of them probably doing that job as well. ERod is a lefty starter that is a year away. In the near term the O's have to figure out what to do with Britton and will Wada take a cheap minor league position with options so he can swing between the majors and minors this year. If not he is gone. McFarland role will expand this year. Probably as a swingman with options. All these guys are lefties and can impact Matusz and Patton's future if they don't add a pitch to get out righties or lefties.
With one more pitch to get out lefties Matusz future is different.
10-27-2013 12:58 PM #9
10-27-2013 01:15 PM #10
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Brian Matusz has faced 1355 right-handed batters at the Major League level. They are hitting .305/.370/.490 off him.
Lets face it. His ceiling as a starter is now Joe Saunders. You want to throw away a season experimenting with a guy with that kind of low ceiling? Not I.
Loogy or Trade Him
10-27-2013 01:16 PM #11
Matusz knows how to pitch and developing a single pitch could be a huge factor in where he is headed for the future.
10-27-2013 01:23 PM #12
I can see him as a Bruce Chen type later in his career. I just think he must tip his pitches in addition to losing his MLB changeup. I don't see him being a significant piece for the Orioles. It's a shame.
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