Tracking Ex Oriole Thread

Simon and Albers both went on to be pretty successful relievers after leaving the O's.

So did Kevin Gregg!!!

Simon's ERA / IP's since leaving the O's (2012-14):

2.66 / 61 (36 relief appearances)

2.87 / 87.67 (63 relief apps)

0.86 / 21 (3 starts)

The Reds saw something we didn't.

Some overseas players:

KBO:

Jo-Jo Reyes (SK Wyverns) 1-0, 3G, 17.1IP, 6.23ERA, 1.620WHIP

Ross Wolf (SK Wyverns) 1-0, 3G, 16.2IP, 3.24ERA, 1.380WHIP

Rick VandenHurk (Samsung Lions) 1-1, 3G, 11.0IP, 7.36ERA, 1.550WHIP

Jairo Asencio (Kia Tigers) 1-0, 6G, 6.0IP, 1.50ERA, 1.500WHIP, 3SV

Josh Bell (LG Twins) 75PA, .328/.440/.607, 14R/5HR/13RBI (league leader in HR)

Felix Pie (Hanwha Eagles) 74PA, .333/.405/.429, 5/0/12

Eric Thames (NC Dinos) 68PA, .310/.412/.569, 12/5/12 (league leader in HR)

Yamaico Navarro (Samsung Lions) 64PA, .228/.313/.474, 9/4/12

Luke Scott (SK Wyverns) 58PA, .304/.431/.609, 11/4/7

Luis Jimenez (Lotte Giants) 35PA, .344/.400/.688, 6/3/9

NPB:

Daniel Cabrera (Chunichi Dragons) 2-0, 2G, 14.0IP, 1.29ERA, 1.000WHIP

Kam Mickolio (Hiroshima Toyo Carp) 0-0, 6G, 5.1IP, 1.69ERA, 0.938WHIP, 4SV

Dennis Sarfate (Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks) 1-0, 6G, 6.0IP, 0.00ERA, 0.833WHIP, 3SV

Orlando Roman (Yakult Swallows) 0-0, 1G, 0.2IP, 0.00ERA, 1.500ERA

Mexican:

Luis Vizcaino (Leones de Yucat?n) 0-0, 8G, 9.0IP, 1.00ERA, 1.000WHIP, 4SV

Jon Leicester (Diablos Rojos) 0-0, 2G, 5.0IP, 5.40ERA, 1.800WHIP

Victor Moreno (Acereros de Monclova) 1-1, 9G, 9.0IP, 2.00ERA, 1.556ERA, 5SV

Luis Ramirez (Tigres de Quintana Roo) 0-1, 8G, 3.1IP, 2.70ERA, 1.500WHIP

Oscar Villareal (Sultanes de Monterrey) 0-1, 5G, 5.1IP, 5.06ERA, 2.062WHIP, 3SV

Jose Barajas (Acereros de Monclova) 0-1, 5G, 14.0IP, 6.43ERA, 2.429WHIP

Jake Fox (Vaqueros Laguna) 61PA, .260/.393/.540, 10/3/10

Chris Roberson (Sultanes de Monterrey) 60PA, .407/.450/.593, 14/1/10

Geronimo Gil (Guerreros de Oaxaca) 59PA, .275/.362/.373, 8/1/4

Fernando Tatis (Vaqueros Laguna) 56PA, .213/.339/.234, 4/0/2

Matt LaPorta (Piratas de Campeche) 50PA, .293/.420/.561, 9/3/10

Victor Diaz (Broncos de Reynosa) 48PA, .209/.250/.256, 3/0/5

Luis Terrero (Diablos Rojos) 24PA, .412/.583/.824, 8/2/4

Willis Otanez (Rieleros de Aguascalientes), 72PA, .379/.472/.655, 14/4/21

Ruben Rivera (Rieleros de Aguascalientes), 69PA, .328/.391/.672, 14/4/14

Randy Ruiz (Toros de Tijuana), 69PA, .194/.261/.258, 4/1/9

This was from a couple days ago:

AAA Players

Wilson Betemit (Rays), 53PA, .238/.377/.476, 7/3/9

Jason Pridie (Rockies), 50PA, .304/.360/.522, 10/2/7

Trayvon Robinson (Dodgers), 40PA, .158/.175/.184, 2/0/1

Russ Canzler (Yankees), 37PA, .281/.324/.438, 5/0/6

Chris Dickerson (Pirates), 34PA, .290/.353/.613, 5/2/5

Mike Costanzo (Reds), 32PA, .321/.375/.464, 3/1/5

Taylor Teagarden (Mets), 29PA, .280/.379/.360, 2/0/1

Endy Chavez (Mariners), 27PA, .375/.423/.375, 6/0/0

John Hester (Angels), 25PA, .375/.400/.708, 5/1/2

Chris Snyder (Rangers), 25PA, .238/.360/.286, 3/0/2

Zelous Wheeler (Yankees), 21PA, .421/.476/.684, 6/0/1

Steve Lerud (Braves), 19PA, .125/.222/.313, 2/1/1

Robert Andino (Pirates), 2PA, .500/.500/.500, 0/0/0

Rich Hill (Red Sox), 5G, 8.2IP, 2.08ERA, 1.040WHIP

Greg Burke (Rockies), 5G, 7.1IP, 2.45ERA, 1.360WHIP

Miguel Socolovich (Mets), 6G, 6.2IP, 1.35ERA, 1.200WHIP

Randy Wolf (Diamondbacks), 1G, 6.0IP, 6.00ERA, 1.170WHIP

Mike Belfiore (Tigers), 4G, 6.0IP, 7.50ERA, 2.170WHIP

Clay Rapada (Mariners), 5G, 5.1IP, 5.06ERA, 0.750WHIP

Dana Eveland (Mets), 4G, 5.1IP, 8.44ERA, 1.880WHIP

Jim Miller (Yankees), 3G, 5.0IP, 5.40ERA, 1.800WHIP

Daniel Schlereth (Pirates), 4G, 4.0IP, 0.00ERA, 1.500WHIP

Manny Delcarmen (Nationals), 4G, 3.2IP, 2.45ERA, 1.360WHIP

Dontrelle Willis (Giants), 2G, 0.2IP, 0.00ERA, 1.500WHIP

Jose Diaz (Reds), 6G, 7.2IP, 0.00ERA, 0.783WHIP

Mitch Atkins (Braves), 3G, 11.2IP, 5.40ERA, 1.457WHIP

Guys we drafted:

Xavier Avery (Mariners), 48PA, .289/.319/.356, 6/0/4 (2nd Rd, 2008)

Matt Angle (Marlins), 45PA, .125/.205/.150, 3/0/2 (7th Rd, 2007)

Mike Fontenot (Rays) 40PA, .257/.350/.343, 4/0/2 (1st Rd, 2001)

Ty Kelly (Mariners), 38PA, .077/.351/.115, 4/0/2 (13th Rd, 2009)

Brandon Snyder (Red Sox), 38PA, .188/.289/.438, 5/2/6 (1st Rd, 2005)

Tyler Henson (Phillies), 36PA, .212/.278/.303, 3/0/1 (5th Rd, 2006)

Jason Berken (Giants), 3G, 16.0IP, 3.38ERA, 1.130WHIP (6th Rd, 2006)

Tsuyoshi Wada (Cubs), 2G, 13.1IP, 0.68ERA, 0.600WHIP (Japan, 2012)

Pedro Beato (Braves), 3G, 4.0IP, 0.00ERA, 0.750WHIP (1st Rd, 2006)

Erik Bedard (Rays), 1G, 4.0IP, 2.25ERA, 0.750WHIP (6th Rd, 1999)

Randy Henry (Rangers), 1G, 1.0IP, 0.00ERA, 1.000WHIP (4th Rd, 2009)

Kyle Simon (Phillies), 5G, 6.0IP, 10.50ERA, 1.833WHIP (4th Rd, 2011)

Simon's ERA / IP's since leaving the O's (2012-14):

2.66 / 61 (36 relief appearances)

2.87 / 87.67 (63 relief apps)

0.86 / 21 (3 starts)

The Reds saw something we didn't.

We moved on to brighter pastures.... Don't forget about his manslaughter trial we had to deal with too and to the fact that he was carrying around 5.00 ERA for two seasons.

Stats don't lie. Simon will come back down to reality.

Francisco Rodriguez 4 saves, 0.00 ERA, .57 WHIP, 1.3 BB/9, 15.4 K/9

Scott Feldman 2-1, 1.69 ERA, .94 WHIP, 3.0 BB/9, 3.0 K/9

Jason Hammel 2-1, 3.05 ERA, .73 WHIP, 2.2 BB/9, 7.0 K/9

Matt Lindstrom 1-1, 3.86 ERA, 1.57 WHIP, 2.6 BB/9, 2.6 K/9

Pedro Strop 0-1, 4.76 ERA, 1.41 WHIP, 6.4 BB/9, 12.7 K/9

Jim Johnson 2-2, 7.56 ERA, 2.16 WHIP, 7.6 BB/9, 9.7 K/9

Joe Saunders 0-1, 9.82 ERA, 2.46 WHIP, 7.4 BB/9, 9.8 K/9

Mike Morse 15-49, 2 HR, 10 RBIs, .306/.382/.510/.892

Danny Valencia 3-11, 1 HR, 1 RBI, .273/.273/.545/.818

LJ Hoes 4-20, 1 HR, 1 RBI, .200/.333/.350/.683

Mark Reynolds 7-41, 3 HR, 6 RBIs, .171/.261/.415/.676

Travis Ishikawa 7-33, 1 HR, 3 RBIs, .212/.270/.394/.664

Brian Roberts 7-36, 0 HR, 3 RBIs, .194/.333/.278/.611

Nate McLouth 2-23, 0 HR, 0 RBIs, .087/.250/.130/.380, 2 errors

Just some others to consider:

Alfredo Simon (Reds)

Jeremy Guthrie (Royals)

Bruce Chen (Royals)

Pat Neshek (Cardinals)

Matt Albers (Astros)

Koji Uehara (Red Sox)

LaTroy Hawkins (Rockies)

Scott Rice (Mets)

Daniel McCutchen (Rangers)

Erik Bedard (Rays)

Pedro Beato (Braves)

David Hernandez (Diamondbacks) (Out for Season)

Jake Arrieta (Cubs) (On DL)

Pedro Florimon (Twins)

Justin Turner (Dodgers)

Omar Quintanilla (Mets)

I did the last three posts by memory and by hand, so if I missed someone please let me know. My brain can only be so full of useless baseball stats of players that don't matter anymore.

Simon's ERA / IP's since leaving the O's (2012-14):

2.66 / 61 (36 relief appearances)

2.87 / 87.67 (63 relief apps)

0.86 / 21 (3 starts)

The Reds saw something we didn't.

I had the opportunity to observe him in a non public situation. I think perhaps that it was best for him to go. He's done well.

This was from a couple days ago:

AAA Players

Wilson Betemit (Rays), 53PA, .238/.377/.476, 7/3/9

Jason Pridie (Rockies), 50PA, .304/.360/.522, 10/2/7

Trayvon Robinson (Dodgers), 40PA, .158/.175/.184, 2/0/1

Russ Canzler (Yankees), 37PA, .281/.324/.438, 5/0/6

Chris Dickerson (Pirates), 34PA, .290/.353/.613, 5/2/5

Mike Costanzo (Reds), 32PA, .321/.375/.464, 3/1/5

Taylor Teagarden (Mets), 29PA, .280/.379/.360, 2/0/1

Endy Chavez (Mariners), 27PA, .375/.423/.375, 6/0/0

John Hester (Angels), 25PA, .375/.400/.708, 5/1/2

Chris Snyder (Rangers), 25PA, .238/.360/.286, 3/0/2

Zelous Wheeler (Yankees), 21PA, .421/.476/.684, 6/0/1

Steve Lerud (Braves), 19PA, .125/.222/.313, 2/1/1

Robert Andino (Pirates), 2PA, .500/.500/.500, 0/0/0

Rich Hill (Red Sox), 5G, 8.2IP, 2.08ERA, 1.040WHIP

Greg Burke (Rockies), 5G, 7.1IP, 2.45ERA, 1.360WHIP

Miguel Socolovich (Mets), 6G, 6.2IP, 1.35ERA, 1.200WHIP

Randy Wolf (Diamondbacks), 1G, 6.0IP, 6.00ERA, 1.170WHIP

Mike Belfiore (Tigers), 4G, 6.0IP, 7.50ERA, 2.170WHIP

Clay Rapada (Mariners), 5G, 5.1IP, 5.06ERA, 0.750WHIP

Dana Eveland (Mets), 4G, 5.1IP, 8.44ERA, 1.880WHIP

Jim Miller (Yankees), 3G, 5.0IP, 5.40ERA, 1.800WHIP

Daniel Schlereth (Pirates), 4G, 4.0IP, 0.00ERA, 1.500WHIP

Manny Delcarmen (Nationals), 4G, 3.2IP, 2.45ERA, 1.360WHIP

Dontrelle Willis (Giants), 2G, 0.2IP, 0.00ERA, 1.500WHIP

Guys we drafted:

Xavier Avery (Mariners), 48PA, .289/.319/.356, 6/0/4 (2nd Rd, 2008)

Matt Angle (Marlins), 45PA, .125/.205/.150, 3/0/2 (7th Rd, 2007)

Mike Fontenot (Rays) 40PA, .257/.350/.343, 4/0/2 (1st Rd, 2001)

Ty Kelly (Mariners), 38PA, .077/.351/.115, 4/0/2 (13th Rd, 2009)

Brandon Snyder (Red Sox), 38PA, .188/.289/.438, 5/2/6 (1st Rd, 2005)

Tyler Henson (Phillies), 36PA, .212/.278/.303, 3/0/1 (5th Rd, 2006)

Jason Berken (Giants), 3G, 16.0IP, 3.38ERA, 1.130WHIP (6th Rd, 2006)

Tsuyoshi Wada (Cubs), 2G, 13.1IP, 0.68ERA, 0.600WHIP (Japan, 2012)

Pedro Beato (Braves), 3G, 4.0IP, 0.00ERA, 0.750WHIP (1st Rd, 2006)

Erik Bedard (Rays), 1G, 4.0IP, 2.25ERA, 0.750WHIP (6th Rd, 1999)

Randy Henry (Rangers), 1G, 1.0IP, 0.00ERA, 1.000WHIP (4th Rd, 2009)

Many of these stats are from practice baseball. I am really only interested when they make major league impact.

Many of these stats are from practice baseball. I am really only interested when they make major league impact.

"Practice Baseball"? I mean, I get that AAA is sub-par baseball, it's still pro baseball though. I like to look back at players we gave up on to see where they are now. Looking at what we've moved on from, we are pretty good at avoiding seller's remorse.

"Practice Baseball"? I mean, I get that AAA is sub-par baseball, it's still pro baseball though. I like to look back at players we gave up on to see where they are now. Looking at what we've moved on from, we are pretty good at avoiding seller's remorse.

Yeah. Kinda that Thanks.

"Practice Baseball"? I mean, I get that AAA is sub-par baseball, it's still pro baseball though. I like to look back at players we gave up on to see where they are now. Looking at what we've moved on from, we are pretty good at avoiding seller's remorse.

A big pet peeve of mine is calling the 3rd-best baseball league in the world sub-par. That's saying 99.999 percent of ballplayers in the world should just give up.

Talent in baseball is a pyramid. MLB is the single capstone on top. It couldn't exist without the thousands of bricks below.

A big pet peeve of mine is calling the 3rd-best baseball league in the world sub-par. That's saying 99.999 percent of ballplayers in the world should just give up.

Talent in baseball is a pyramid. MLB is the single capstone on top. It couldn't exist without the thousands of bricks below.

Oh absolutely. AAA is high quality stuff. It's just the rosters are not constructed to win. And the games are not played to win at all times. It is a practice scenario for players climbing that pyramid. With the context of being for stakes, the reality is that they are there for player development. Not actual won and lost records.

Heck AA, from what I've seen is the fourth highest quality baseball played on the planet.

Oh absolutely. AAA is high quality stuff. It's just the rosters are not constructed to win. And the games are not played to win at all times. It is a practice scenario for players climbing that pyramid. With the context of being for stakes, the reality is that they are there for player development. Not actual won and lost records.

Heck AA, from what I've seen is the fourth highest quality baseball played on the planet.

I absolutely agree with that. I hate that the minors sold out and the majors enabled this travesty. Most North American pro baseball leagues simply don't care about wins and losses. If you don't live near one of the 30 real teams your local team is kind of a sham.

I absolutely agree with that. I hate that the minors sold out and the majors enabled this travesty. Most North American pro baseball leagues simply don't care about wins and losses. If you don't live near one of the 30 real teams your local team is kind of a sham.

Even the independent leagues are a bit like WWE with multiple teams being owned by the same group. I occasionally wonder how they decide to bestow the titles.

I absolutely agree with that. I hate that the minors sold out and the majors enabled this travesty. Most North American pro baseball leagues simply don't care about wins and losses. If you don't live near one of the 30 real teams your local team is kind of a sham.

But still....Baseball.