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BALTIMORE O RIOLES

Nick Markakis - RF

Delmon Young - DH

Adam Jones - CF

Nelson Cruz - LF

Chris Davis - 1B

James Jerry Hardy - SS

Jonathan Schoop 2B

Ryan Flaherty - 3B

Caleb Joseph - C

Wei-Yin Chen - LHP (10-3, 4.21 ERA)

SEATTLE MARINERS

James Jones - CF

Stefen Romero - RF

Robinson Cano - 2B

Corey Hart - 1B

Kyle Seager - 3B

Jesus Montero - DH

Dustin Ackley - LF

Mike Zunino - C

Chris Taylor - SS

Hisashi Iwakuma - RHP (8-4, 2.95 ERA)

http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups

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Yankees and Jays already winners. Thank God they have to play each other starting tomorrow. I thought the Yankees just were going to play Texas for the next dozen games or so.

Just so the Jays keep winning, They are no issue. The Yankees are too close.

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BALTIMORE O RIOLES

Nick Markakis - RF

Delmon Young - DH

Adam Jones - CF

Nelson Cruz - LF

Chris Davis - 1B

James Jerry Hardy - SS

Jonathan Schoop 2B

Ryan Flaherty - 3B

Caleb Joseph - C

Wei-Yin Chen - LHP (10-3, 4.21 ERA)

SEATTLE MARINERS

James Jones - CF

Stefen Romero - RF

Robinson Cano - 2B

Corey Hart - 1B

Kyle Seager - 3B

Jesus Montero - DH

Dustin Ackley - LF

Mike Zunino - C

Chris Taylor - SS

Hisashi Iwakuma - RHP (8-4, 2.95 ERA)

http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups

I miss Manny.

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Hard to say. Their number one pick, Stroman, looks like a true ace. I wish one of ours would turn out that way, just once.

He's had a great run so far.

Who's the last 5'9" pitcher to really achieve "true ace" status?

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If you've not seen this, you should.

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scOtt. At least go to the 24 min mark. and listen for five or six.

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