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At this point the intelligent fans have accepted that this season is a lost cause. We're even starting to push SP's back. It's best for our franchise to get a top 10 draft pick. We can pick a better player, plus that pick is protected if we wanted to sign a player with a QO attached to him. Lot's of crazy things could happen this offseason.

We could have a ton of picks. All in the top 100

1st rd-hopefully top 10 overall

1st rd supplemental- Chen

1st rd supplemental- Davis

1st rd supplemental- MW

2nd rd- our regular 2016 pick

2nd rd- pick for not signing our 2nd rd pick last year.

2nd rd- Competitive Balance pick B

3rd rd-our regular 2016 pick

That's 8 picks in the top 100 overall. I've read that this draft has alot of college pitching depth. If we keep Davis then we lose that comp pick. But the good news is that if we were to sign a player with a QO we wouldn't lose our 1st rd pick, just one of our 1st rd supplemental picks or a 2nd rd pick. Still we have lots of flexibility in FA and we will be able to add a ton of talent to our system next June.

Now onto how we should finish the season. I'd like to see Wright, Wilson, Garcia, Doyle, Chris Jones, Givens and Drake get some innings at the MLB level. As far as position players, Alvarez needs to be playing everyday. Keep Davis, Parra and MW on their normal playing time so that way we can have a shot at signing them or in MW's case let him play so we can give him a QO. Here's what the team should look like:

Rotation:

Chen

Gausman

Tillman(could sub Wilson in eventually)

Ubaldo(same thing with C.Jones)

Doyle

Wright

Bullpen. Let O'day and Britton do their thing. But let's find out about Givens, Drake, Triggs?, Garcia. There should be plenty of innings to go around. But I'd give Brach, Roe, and Matusz a little break.

vs RHP

Machado SS

Parra LF

Jones CF

Davis 1B

Clevenger DH

MW C

Schoop 2B

Parades 3B (lets see if he's been working on anything off/def)

Alvarez RF

vs LHP

Machado 3B

Walker DH

Jones CF

Davis RF

Schoop 2B

Joseph C

Alvarez LF

Mancini 1B

Janish SS

We should not be giving Pearce starts. Urrutia can platoon with Alvarez once Norfolk's season is over. Let's see what we have for 2016. It can't get any worse than it is. If we're going to be bad we minus well be really bad and really young. Heck we could even get crazy and give Cisco some AB's or Gunkel/Miranda some IP. I'd tune in.

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All those picks with our draft budget we will be selecting all sorts of colege guys below slot money is the probem.

Isn't draft budget tied to your slots? So for example if you have 1 first round and two supps you are talking in the range of $10m to sign those 3?

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Isn't draft budget tied to your slots? So for example if you have 1 first round and two supps you are talking in the range of $10m to sign those 3?

The draft budget is the max you can spend it does not mean that the team will spend that much. It is kinda like salary cap a team is not forced to spend the entire cap.

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The draft budget is the max you can spend it does not mean that the team will spend that much. It is kinda like salary cap a team is not forced to spend the entire cap.

And do you have any evidence of the O's leaving draft money on the table since the changes in the draft?

(Obviously they did this season due to O's second round pick allegedly having an issue with his physical but all early indications were he would be signed.)

When is the last time the O's even went cheap in the draft? When they picked Nick in the first round?

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At this point the intelligent fans have accepted that this season is a lost cause. We're even starting to push SP's back. It's best for our franchise to get a top 10 draft pick. We can pick a better player, plus that pick is protected if we wanted to sign a player with a QO attached to him. Lot's of crazy things could happen this offseason.

We could have a ton of picks. All in the top 100

1st rd-hopefully top 10 overall

1st rd supplemental- Chen

1st rd supplemental- Davis

1st rd supplemental- MW

2nd rd- our regular 2016 pick

2nd rd- pick for not signing our 2nd rd pick last year.

2nd rd- Competitive Balance pick B

3rd rd-our regular 2016 pick

That's 8 picks in the top 100 overall. I've read that this draft has alot of college pitching depth. If we keep Davis then we lose that comp pick. But the good news is that if we were to sign a player with a QO we wouldn't lose our 1st rd pick, just one of our 1st rd supplemental picks or a 2nd rd pick. Still we have lots of flexibility in FA and we will be able to add a ton of talent to our system next June.

Now onto how we should finish the season. I'd like to see Wright, Wilson, Garcia, Doyle, Chris Jones, Givens and Drake get some innings at the MLB level. As far as position players, Alvarez needs to be playing everyday. Keep Davis, Parra and MW on their normal playing time so that way we can have a shot at signing them or in MW's case let him play so we can give him a QO. Here's what the team should look like:

Rotation:

Chen

Gausman

Tillman(could sub Wilson in eventually)

Ubaldo(same thing with C.Jones)

Doyle

Wright

Bullpen. Let O'day and Britton do their thing. But let's find out about Givens, Drake, Triggs?, Garcia. There should be plenty of innings to go around. But I'd give Brach, Roe, and Matusz a little break.

vs RHP

Machado SS

Parra LF

Jones CF

Davis 1B

Clevenger DH

MW C

Schoop 2B

Parades 3B (lets see if he's been working on anything off/def)

Alvarez RF

vs LHP

Machado 3B

Walker DH

Jones CF

Davis RF

Schoop 2B

Joseph C

Alvarez LF

Mancini 1B

Janish SS

We should not be giving Pearce starts. Urrutia can platoon with Alvarez once Norfolk's season is over. Let's see what we have for 2016. It can't get any worse than it is. If we're going to be bad we minus well be really bad and really young. Heck we could even get crazy and give Cisco some AB's or Gunkel/Miranda some IP. I'd tune in.

Looks like we're now in the business of sending obscure, roundabout messages. If that's the case shouldn't we also have AJ climb up on the dugout roof during the seventh inning stretch, curl up into a fetal position and whimper like a beaten puppy? May as well send a message to the crowd and TV audience as well. Somebody out there might be foolish enough to expect a major league effort from a major league team.

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And do you have any evidence of the O's leaving draft money on the table since the changes in the draft?

(Obviously they did this season due to O's second round pick allegedly having an issue with his physical but all early indications were he would be signed.)

When is the last time the O's even went cheap in the draft? When they picked Nick in the first round?

We have never done it. Never. Other clubs have though.

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Basically this season right now is a cluster you know what.

And the whole organization is. We got lucky with trades and obscure signings over the past few years.

But we're not going to build a sustained winner until we can start drafting pitchers that are highly serviceable at the MLB level.

The biggest questions of this organization are these? Will Dylan Bundy ever make to the MLB again, let alone be good? Why does Hunter Harvey have a 3.42 FIP in A ball? Can Kevin Gausman take it to the next level?

Let's not burn through 1st round pitchers. Can we try that? Is it time for that?

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Basically this season right now is a cluster you know what.

And the whole organization is. We got lucky with trades and obscure signings over the past few years.

But we're not going to build a sustained winner until we can start drafting pitchers that are highly serviceable at the MLB level.

The biggest questions of this organization are these? Will Dylan Bundy ever make to the MLB again, let alone be good? Why does Hunter Harvey have a 3.42 FIP in A ball? Can Kevin Gausman take it to the next level?

Let's not burn through 1st round pitchers. Can we try that? Is it time for that?

Why are you claiming it was luck?

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