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Game 3 (1:10)

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Team Records

76-62 |=======| 58-79

3rd, -1.0 |=======| 5th, -18.5

Streaks / L10

+2, Won 5 of 7 / 6-4 |=======| -3, Lost 3 of 4 / 4-6

Team Offensive Rankings (AL)

BA: .260 (7th) |=======| BA: .244 (15th)

OPS: .772 (2nd) |=======| OPS: .740 (11th)

Runs: 634 (5th) |=======| Runs: 570 (11th)

HR: 214 (1st) |=======| HR: 180 (5th)

Last 7 Days

BA: .252 (12th) |=======| BA: .300 (4th)

OPS: .809 (6th) |=======| OPS: .857 (4th)

Runs: 29 (10th) |=======| Runs: 41 (6th)

HR: 15 (2nd) |=======| HR: 12 (5th)

Team Pitching Rankings (AL)

ERA: 4.41 (12th) |=======| ERA: 4.14 (6th)

WHIP: 1.39 (13th) |=======| WHIP: 1.31 (8th)

BAA: .262 (11th) |=======| BAA: .254 (6th)

TB: 1975 (10th) |=======| TB: 1862 (3rd)

Last 7 Days

ERA: 3.77 (5th) |=======| ERA: 5.55 (12th)

WHIP: 1.23 (4th) |=======| WHIP: 1.53 (12th)

BAA: .238 (2nd) |=======| BAA: .267 (9th)

TB: 89 (4th) |=======| TB: 100 (7th)

Starters

ERA: 4.86 (12th) |=======| ERA: 4.11 (4th)

WHIP: 1.43 (13th) |=======| WHIP: 1.28 (3rd)

BAA: .270 (11th) |=======| BAA: .251 (3rd)

TB: 1293 (8th) |=======| TB: 1224 (1st)

Relievers

ERA: 3.70 (5th) |=======| ERA: 4.20 (13th)

WHIP: 1.33 (10th) |=======| WHIP: 1.37 (12th)

BAA: .248 (7th) |=======| BAA: .261 (12th)

TB: 682 (12th) |=======| TB: 638 (7th)

NEW: Quality Start minimum requirements

* - Game ERA must be 4.00 or less with at least six innings pitched

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Dylan Bundy

(8-5)

3.47 (1.32/.252)

85K / 33BB, 13HR

QS: 4

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Fortunately for Bundy, the Yankees were slumping and missing pretty much every hittable pitch they got. Bundy still couldn't make it through six innings, but allowed only two hits while walking four which we'll take any day.

Splits & Sits

209 vs. left: .242/.308/.381, 7HR

176 vs. right: .265/.347/.381, 7HR

Bases Empty: .239

RISP: .218

RISP w/2 outs: .222

Men on w/2 outs: .277

Man on 3rd, < 2 outs: .235

2016 Away (4 starts, 11 relief)

(4-3) 4.54 (1.59/.284), 6HR

Career vs. TB (1 starts, 1 relief)

(0-1) 5.68 (1.58/.269), 3HR

Career @ Tropicana Field (1 starts)

(0-1) 3.1 IP, 5H, 4ER, 3HR, 3BB

vs. Batter

Brad Miller 2/3, S-HR

Evan Longoria 1/3, S-HR

Logan Morrison 1/3

Logan Forsythe 0/3, 2K

Steven Souza Jr. 1/2

Kevin Kiermaier 0/2, K

Corey Dickerson 0/2, K

Bobby Wilson 0/1, K

Tim Beckham 0/1, K

Curt Casali 0/0, 2BB

VS

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Drew Smyly

(6-11)

4.94 (1.25/.256)

153K / 42BB, 29HR

QS: 11

Last 3 starts (17.2 IP): (1-0) 5.62 (1.14), 5HR

Since getting off to a great start in April (2.60), Smyly fell off a cliff in May (7.18) and has been very slowly crawling his way back to his usual self. He put up a 3.82 in August, but has struggled over the last three starts. His WHIP is solid, but it's the five home runs that have hurt him. Smyly has been especially prone to them this season having allowed seven in three separate months. He allowed eight runs on 10 hits, a walk and three home runs in five innings back in his June start against the Orioles. Overall though, Smyly has been dominating against the Orioles and of course was coming back from a shoulder injury this season. That start this season inflated his career numbers vs the O's dramatically and yet, they are still extremely good.

Splits & Sits

127 vs. left: .256/.283/.425, 6HR

521 vs. right: .255/.308/.411, 23HR

Bases Empty: .214

RISP: .317

RISP w/2 outs: .302

Men on w/2 outs: .289

Man on 3rd, < 2 outs: .280

2016 Home (12 starts)

(3-6) 4.22 (0.98/.203), 14HR

Career vs. Baltimore (6 starts, 3 relief)

(4-1) 3.22 (0.96/.193), 8HR

vs. Batter

Adam Jones (20 AB) .200, 2B, HR, 2RBI

Chris Davis (19 AB) .158, 3HR, 6RBI, 12K

Jonathan Schoop (15 AB) .267, 2B, S-HR

J.J. Hardy (12 AB) .083

Manny Machado (12 AB) .333, 2 2B

Steve Pearce (12 AB) .167, HR, 2RBI, 3BB

Michael Bourn 4/9

Mark Trumbo 2/9, HR, 2RBI, 5K

Caleb Joseph 3/8

Nolan Reimold 1/8, 2B

Matt Wieters 2/5, 2B, 3K

Drew Stubbs 1/4, S-HR

Pedro Alvarez 0/2, BB

Once again, just a horrible game from the TB battery. You would think Odorizzi only knew how to throw fastballs and keep in mind here that the Orioles are a fastball hitting team that hits home runs and this is the strategy everyone decided was a good idea? Just keep throwing fastballs and hope for the best? It's really hard to believe honestly, but that's what happened and again, the Orioles blow the game wide open before the game is even halfway through. Seven straight fastballs to Machado? Nothing but fastballs to Chris Davis? It's like the Rays had no idea who the Orioles were coming into this game and changed nothing about their approach. It's truly pathetic on the part of the Rays IMO and the bullpen was no different. The Orioles will go for the sweep here, but keep in mind that this Rays team has not at all played or pitched well in this series. It is useful since the Yankees are giving Toronto a lot of trouble.

Bundy has really struggled this season against the Rays and Smyly has really struggled with the long ball this season, but has dominated the Orioles on multiple occasions in the past. Let's see what they do here.

Wild Card Standings

*Boston +1.0

*Baltimore --

Detroit -1.0

Houston -2.0

NY Yankees -3.5

KC Royals -4.0

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Game 3 (1:10)

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Team Records

76-62 |=======| 58-79

3rd, -1.0 |=======| 5th, -18.5

Streaks / L10

+2, Won 5 of 7 / 6-4 |=======| -3, Lost 3 of 4 / 4-6

Team Offensive Rankings (AL)

BA: .260 (7th) |=======| BA: .244 (15th)

OPS: .772 (2nd) |=======| OPS: .740 (11th)

Runs: 634 (5th) |=======| Runs: 570 (11th)

HR: 214 (1st) |=======| HR: 180 (5th)

Last 7 Days

BA: .252 (12th) |=======| BA: .300 (4th)

OPS: .809 (6th) |=======| OPS: .857 (4th)

Runs: 29 (10th) |=======| Runs: 41 (6th)

HR: 15 (2nd) |=======| HR: 12 (5th)

Team Pitching Rankings (AL)

ERA: 4.41 (12th) |=======| ERA: 4.14 (6th)

WHIP: 1.39 (13th) |=======| WHIP: 1.31 (8th)

BAA: .262 (11th) |=======| BAA: .254 (6th)

TB: 1975 (10th) |=======| TB: 1862 (3rd)

Last 7 Days

ERA: 3.77 (5th) |=======| ERA: 5.55 (12th)

WHIP: 1.23 (4th) |=======| WHIP: 1.53 (12th)

BAA: .238 (2nd) |=======| BAA: .267 (9th)

TB: 89 (4th) |=======| TB: 100 (7th)

Starters

ERA: 4.86 (12th) |=======| ERA: 4.11 (4th)

WHIP: 1.43 (13th) |=======| WHIP: 1.28 (3rd)

BAA: .270 (11th) |=======| BAA: .251 (3rd)

TB: 1293 (8th) |=======| TB: 1224 (1st)

Relievers

ERA: 3.70 (5th) |=======| ERA: 4.20 (13th)

WHIP: 1.33 (10th) |=======| WHIP: 1.37 (12th)

BAA: .248 (7th) |=======| BAA: .261 (12th)

TB: 682 (12th) |=======| TB: 638 (7th)

NEW: Quality Start minimum requirements

* - Game ERA must be 4.00 or less with at least six innings pitched

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Dylan Bundy

(8-5)

3.47 (1.32/.252)

85K / 33BB, 13HR

QS: 4

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Fortunately for Bundy, the Yankees were slumping and missing pretty much every hittable pitch they got. Bundy still couldn't make it through six innings, but allowed only two hits while walking four which we'll take any day.

Splits & Sits

209 vs. left: .242/.308/.381, 7HR

176 vs. right: .265/.347/.381, 7HR

Bases Empty: .239

RISP: .218

RISP w/2 outs: .222

Men on w/2 outs: .277

Man on 3rd, < 2 outs: .235

2016 Away (4 starts, 11 relief)

(4-3) 4.54 (1.59/.284), 6HR

Career vs. TB (1 starts, 1 relief)

(0-1) 5.68 (1.58/.269), 3HR

Career @ Tropicana Field (1 starts)

(0-1) 3.1 IP, 5H, 4ER, 3HR, 3BB

vs. Batter

Brad Miller 2/3, S-HR

Evan Longoria 1/3, S-HR

Logan Morrison 1/3

Logan Forsythe 0/3, 2K

Steven Souza Jr. 1/2

Kevin Kiermaier 0/2, K

Corey Dickerson 0/2, K

Bobby Wilson 0/1, K

Tim Beckham 0/1, K

Curt Casali 0/0, 2BB

VS

31816.png&w=350&h=254

Drew Smyly

(6-11)

4.94 (1.25/.256)

153K / 42BB, 29HR

QS: 11

Last 3 starts (17.2 IP): (1-0) 5.62 (1.14), 5HR

Since getting off to a great start in April (2.60), Smyly fell off a cliff in May (7.18) and has been very slowly crawling his way back to his usual self. He put up a 3.82 in August, but has struggled over the last three starts. His WHIP is solid, but it's the five home runs that have hurt him. Smyly has been especially prone to them this season having allowed seven in three separate months. He allowed eight runs on 10 hits, a walk and three home runs in five innings back in his June start against the Orioles. Overall though, Smyly has been dominating against the Orioles and of course was coming back from a shoulder injury this season. That start this season inflated his career numbers vs the O's dramatically and yet, they are still extremely good.

Splits & Sits

127 vs. left: .256/.283/.425, 6HR

521 vs. right: .255/.308/.411, 23HR

Bases Empty: .214

RISP: .317

RISP w/2 outs: .302

Men on w/2 outs: .289

Man on 3rd, < 2 outs: .280

2016 Home (12 starts)

(3-6) 4.22 (0.98/.203), 14HR

Career vs. Baltimore (6 starts, 3 relief)

(4-1) 3.22 (0.96/.193), 8HR

vs. Batter

Adam Jones (20 AB) .200, 2B, HR, 2RBI

Chris Davis (19 AB) .158, 3HR, 6RBI, 12K

Jonathan Schoop (15 AB) .267, 2B, S-HR

J.J. Hardy (12 AB) .083

Manny Machado (12 AB) .333, 2 2B

Steve Pearce (12 AB) .167, HR, 2RBI, 3BB

Michael Bourn 4/9

Mark Trumbo 2/9, HR, 2RBI, 5K

Caleb Joseph 3/8

Nolan Reimold 1/8, 2B

Matt Wieters 2/5, 2B, 3K

Drew Stubbs 1/4, S-HR

Pedro Alvarez 0/2, BB

Once again, just a horrible game from the TB battery. You would think Odorizzi only knew how to throw fastballs and keep in mind here that the Orioles are a fastball hitting team that hits home runs and this is the strategy everyone decided was a good idea? Just keep throwing fastballs and hope for the best? It's really hard to believe honestly, but that's what happened and again, the Orioles blow the game wide open before the game is even halfway through. Seven straight fastballs to Machado? Nothing but fastballs to Chris Davis? It's like the Rays had no idea who the Orioles were coming into this game and changed nothing about their approach. It's truly pathetic on the part of the Rays IMO and the bullpen was no different. The Orioles will go for the sweep here, but keep in mind that this Rays team has not at all played or pitched well in this series. It is useful since the Yankees are giving Toronto a lot of trouble.

Bundy has really struggled this season against the Rays and Smyly has really struggled with the long ball this season, but has dominated the Orioles on multiple occasions in the past. Let's see what they do here.

Wild Card Standings

*Boston +1.0

*Baltimore --

Detroit -1.0

Houston -2.0

NY Yankees -3.5

KC Royals -4.0

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Fortunately for Bundy, the Yankees were slumping and missing pretty much every hittable pitch they got. Bundy still couldn't make it through six innings, but allowed only two hits while walking four which we'll take any day.

I still don't get this narrative I keep seeing in the game previews where the O's pitchers are not getting the credit. It's always the other team is slumping or their bats went cold. This doesn't happen in a vacuum. He had four walks. Not good, but he shut them out over 5 innings, which at this stage of the season, with more arms in the bullpen to spell him if a guy's tiring, is a good thing. And it looks like a really good strategy from here on out.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BAL/BAL201609020.shtml

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I still don't get this narrative I keep seeing in the game previews where the O's pitchers are not getting the credit. It's always the other team is slumping or their bats went cold. This doesn't happen in a vacuum. He had four walks. Not good, but he shut them out over 5 innings, which at this stage of the season, with more arms in the bullpen to spell him if a guy's tiring, is a good thing. And it looks like a really good strategy from here on out.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BAL/BAL201609020.shtml

It's what he does. If the Orioles lose, it's because they're terrible. If the Orioles win, it's only because the other team played even more terribly. It's remarkable that the O's have lucked their way into 76 fluky wins this year.

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I still don't get this narrative I keep seeing in the game previews where the O's pitchers are not getting the credit. It's always the other team is slumping or their bats went cold. This doesn't happen in a vacuum. He had four walks. Not good, but he shut them out over 5 innings, which at this stage of the season, with more arms in the bullpen to spell him if a guy's tiring, is a good thing. And it looks like a really good strategy from here on out.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BAL/BAL201609020.shtml

It's what he does. If the Orioles lose, it's because they're terrible. If the Orioles win, it's only because the other team played even more terribly. It's remarkable that the O's have lucked their way into 76 fluky wins this year.

I've pointed out his narrative. It's not a board position, he just chooses to do the write ups and some folks appreciate it. If it gets to be a problem for anyone, reach out.

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