Excellent video. Is this Devo's kids channeling the B-52's?Originally Posted by eb45
AC/DC radio on XM. Yeah, they're probably gonna be bad on the new tour. And I doubt the record will even be The Razor's Edge, let alone Back in Black. But I love em more every year.
From this day forward, I answer only to the name 'Buttercup.'
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I would prefer you throw Stadium Arcadium in the trash and pick up a copy of Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magik... or at the very least, Californication.The latter of those two was really the last CD that the Chili Peppers put out that I can even listen to at this point.
The whole MCR gimmick is really bad. The lead singer isn't half as talented as he thinks that he is. They're completely riding the wave of the... whatever the hell you want to call that genre of music (which has some good bands and mostly throw-away ones in it). That doesn't mean that they're necessarily a bad band. As you said, most of the musicians in the band are talented. And me, I put absolutely zero stock into any media image or music video. I care if the music is appealing to me and, at the very least, makes me feel something or allowes me to connect to it on an emotional level. Famous Last Words covers the "appealing to me" quotient. If I started tossing out bands based on music videos or images, I don't think I'd have anyone left after about 1995 or so.
Coheed and Cambria's lead singer isn't for everyone. Absolutely. His voice is jarring. I dunno if you've ever seen what he looks like... but that voice should not come out of him. Anyhow, I don't care for his voice all that much. But the music backing it I absolutely adore. I'm a sucker for stringed instruments other than guitars finding their way into rock pieces, so if that's what killed them for you on Welcome Home then... well, I'm biased to disagree with you right there.FWIW, I like the ending of the song more than the beginning. And Crossing the Frame is quickly trying to move up as my favorite song on the CD.
Jeff Mangum's voice is also a little jarring, but in a different way. His voice fits most of the songs to me, although there's some sections where I wish he'd stop singing and just play for a bit. Overall though, I just find the CD haunting. And I'm not generally someone who really likes a horn section in my music... but it's pulled off really, really well in that album. For me though, the entire experienced is made by the images that Mangum paints with his lyrics.
You didn't like the clips? Or just because its a tease?
And yes, I have the whole thing. I downloaded them, so I'm not sure how to share it with you. Its not on youtube or anything yet. If you have AIM I could send the files to you.
90's. But you're right, the video is very ambiguously era'd. And that's part of what makes it great.
It's like that, but better.
I don't actually own the songs. It's a YouTube playlist, that I made more for the interesting-ness of seeing how they evolved over time than for the actual music. I often stop after Suck My Kiss, then start over. I can tolerate the two songs I have off of Californication and By the Way (Scar Tissue and Can't Stop), but I'm not a huge fan of either, like I am of Fight Like A Brave, Higher Ground, and Suck My Kiss.I would prefer you throw Stadium Arcadium in the trash and pick up a copy of Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magik... or at the very least, Californication.
The whole MCR gimmick is really bad. The lead singer isn't half as talented as he thinks that he is. They're completely riding the wave of the... whatever the hell you want to call that genre of music (which has some good bands and mostly throw-away ones in it). That doesn't mean that they're necessarily a bad band. As you said, most of the musicians in the band are talented. And me, I put absolutely zero stock into any media image or music video. I care if the music is appealing to me and, at the very least, makes me feel something or allowes me to connect to it on an emotional level. Famous Last Words covers the "appealing to me" quotient. If I started tossing out bands based on music videos or images, I don't think I'd have anyone left after about 1995 or so.
Coheed and Cambria's lead singer isn't for everyone. Absolutely. His voice is jarring. I dunno if you've ever seen what he looks like... but that voice should not come out of him. Anyhow, I don't care for his voice all that much. But the music backing it I absolutely adore. I'm a sucker for stringed instruments other than guitars finding their way into rock pieces, so if that's what killed them for you on Welcome Home then... well, I'm biased to disagree with you right there.
Jeff Mangum's voice is also a little jarring, but in a different way. His voice fits most of the songs to me, although there's some sections where I wish he'd stop singing and just play for a bit. Overall though, I just find the CD haunting. And I'm not generally someone who really likes a horn section in my music... but it's pulled off really, really well in that album. For me though, the entire experienced is made by the images that Mangum paints with his lyrics.
I can't get past how gimmicky MCR is, or how good the singer thinks he is when he's actually so terrible. He literally makes me want to scoop my brain out with a melon baller. I can tolerate their earlier stuff (I'm Not Okay, et al.), because they made it before they got successful and he started thinking he was the greatest thing to happen to music since Mozart, and that's evident in the music, in that it's far more guitar/drum-oriented, as opposed to Famous Last Words, in which he doesn't shut up the entire song.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree regarding Coheed and Cambria. I don't like strings (other than guitars) in my music (I much prefer horns), whereas you do. For further illustration of this point, my favorite Coldplay song is Don't Panic, followed by Yellow. And my least favorite is Viva La Vida. I could be wrong, but I don't believe I heard the sound of a single guitar throughout the entire duration of Viva La Vida.
I do love the openings of Welcome Home and A Favor House Atlantic. Him opening his mouth detracts from the substantial awesomeness created by the musicianship in these songs, but they're by no means on the level of MCR, Fall Out Boy, etc. And I agree, human beings that look like that are not supposed to make that sound.
Haunting is indeed the best word to describe that album. King of Carrot Flowers in particular is really upbeat and happy, but its subject matter is so sad, even depressing, that it's almost scary. But I love it. The title track sort of irritates me, though.
As for what I'm listening to.....
Suicide Machines - Rebellion Is On The Clearance Rack (And I Think I Like It)
I saw MCR in concert with a girl I was dating. She loved it. I thought they were garbage. The lineup was Reggie and the Full Effect, Alkaline Trio, and MCR. Reggie et al. was great. Their cover of Slayer's Angel of Death was the highlight of the concert for me. Alkaline Trio was pretty decent, but nothing to write home about. The most notable part of MCR's set was seeing some girl stick another girl in the face.
I don't know... Maybe I've reached my musical saturation point. I just don't dig most current music, at least not the stuff on the radio. I used to listen to the radio, and liked most of what I heard.
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The CD I can't seem to get out of my player right now is Evil Urges.
The Queen of Soul... right this moment.
I like Shallow Be Thy Game myself, but then I have this thing for songs angry at God nothing personal to ANYONE Like Tull - My God.
Well alright then. That's fair enough. It's just that I was so grossly disappointed in Stadium Arcadium (which shouldn't have surprised me since I hated By The Way) that I think I'm about done with RHCP. I liked bits and pieces of Californication. Things before that were fine. Things after that are throw-away.
I guess. I mean, to me if I'm judging a band's musical qualities (not that MCR is anywhere near the top shelf, or even the middle shelves), their gimmick or public perception isn't entering into the equation. Yeah, they're annoying. Yeah, the lead singer thinks that he may in fact be the greatest thing to happen to music. None of that really matters to me because, well, I listen to the albums and avoid anything else when it comes to music. It helps me to not have to hate someone because of what they try to push themselves as and focus on their music instead. If you can't get past that, I completely understand. I'm just suggesting that maybe take that out of the equation now and then.
Considering that I think that Coldplay is just awful, I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.
Accepting that he just has a funky voice makes them much better.
If you want to talk about gimmicks, I think Coheed might have one of the worst ones around, but that's just me. It doesn't take away from how much I enjoy the sounds of what they put out.
See, the title track is probably my favorite on the album. King of Carrot Flowers Pts 2 & 3 is probably my least favorite. There are a lot of songs on there that sound rather upbeat, but are really tragic when you listen to the lyrics. I love that album. Every second of it.
Good stuff. At present, I'm listening to Further Seems Forever - The Moon Is Down.
I personally love The Uplift Mofo Party Plan more than is probably healthy. Mother's Milk and Blood Sugar Sex Magik come close, but can't match it. I've decided that I like Hillel Slovak more than John Frusciante as a guitarist.
Well, that's not strange at all. My favorite Suicide Machines album is War Profiteering Is Killing Us All, but four of my five favorite tracks are off of Destruction by Definition (Break the Glass, No Face, New Girl, and Hey Ska).I guess. I mean, to me if I'm judging a band's musical qualities (not that MCR is anywhere near the top shelf, or even the middle shelves), their gimmick or public perception isn't entering into the equation. Yeah, they're annoying. Yeah, the lead singer thinks that he may in fact be the greatest thing to happen to music. None of that really matters to me because, well, I listen to the albums and avoid anything else when it comes to music. It helps me to not have to hate someone because of what they try to push themselves as and focus on their music instead. If you can't get past that, I completely understand. I'm just suggesting that maybe take that out of the equation now and then.
As far as MCR goes, I find it impossible to live in a vacuum.
Have you ever listened to Parachutes? Very good stuff, not what you'd expect from the band that just put out the horrendously string-y Viva La Vida.Considering that I think that Coldplay is just awful, I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.
If they took out the strings, I might by a Coheed instrumental album as well. And as far as gimmickyness goes, Coheed is no MCR, but they're close.Accepting that he just has a funky voice makes them much better.
If you want to talk about gimmicks, I think Coheed might have one of the worst ones around, but that's just me. It doesn't take away from how much I enjoy the sounds of what they put out.
I haven't heard the album all the way through, but it definitely sounds like something I need to go buy. I think I'll do that.
Back when Chris Carrabba was tolerable! Wow.
My current playlist is none other than the album in my avatar: In Utero, by Nirvana. What is playing right now is Milk It, which epitomizes In Utero as well as any one song can epitomize an album.
The soothing, comforting mediocrity of Paul Weller's solo work.
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The wonder and glory of ABBA."On And On And On"
I was at a party and this fella said to me
"Something bad is happening, I'm sure you do agree
People care for nothing, no respect for human rights
Evil times are coming, we are in for darker nights"
I said, "Who are you to talk about impending doom?"
He got kinda wary as he looked around the room
He said, "I'm a minister, a big shot in the state"
I said, "I just can't believe it, boy I think it's great
Brother can you tell me what is right and what is wrong?"
He said, "Keep on rocking baby, 'til the night is gone"
On and on and on
Keep on rocking baby
'Til the night is gone
On and on and on
'Til the night is gone
On and on and on
Keep on rocking baby
'Til the night is gone
On and on and on
'Til the night is gone
Over in the corner I could see this other guy
He was kinda flirty, he was giving me the eye
So I took advantage of the fact that I'm a star
Shook my hair and took a casual stroll up to the bar
And as sure as hell this guy was coming up to me
He said, "Who am I and who are you and who are we?
What's our situation, do we have some time for us?"
I said I was not exactly waiting for the bus
He said, "If you're going somewhere can I come along?"
I said, "Keep on rocking baby, 'til the night is gone"
On and on and on
Keep on rocking baby
'Til the night is gone
On and on and on
'Til the night is gone
On and on and on
Keep on rocking baby
'Til the night is gone
On and on and on
'Til the night is gone
[Extra Video Verse]
Standing up is scary if you think you're gonna fall
Like a Humpty Dumpty, 'fraid of falling off the wall
I say if you ever want to know what's going on
Gotta keep on rockin baby till the night is gone
From this day forward, I answer only to the name 'Buttercup.'
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Like I said, if I didn't live in a vacuum, I'd hate music.
I've listened to Parachutes. I've listened to most of their stuff. Still can't stand them. Don't know what it is about them, but I find them particularly awful in general. And I like strings, so Viva La Vida is fine as their stuff goes.
Their band exists to give musical accompaniment to a series of graphic novels that Claudio Sanchez writes. Basically, their CDs can be thrown together as one big concept album. They're right up there, gimmick wise, with MCR.
I don't think you'll be disappointed at all. I'm still wondering if Drek found the time to give them a listen.
Yeah, it's amazing what guitars and not whining can do to your tolerability. Consequently, I actually enjoy really, really early Dashboard. Back when it was just Chris Carrabba and not "Chris Carrabba's traveling minstrels." Dashboard sounds fine acoustically. Adding in the electric guitars and drums kills their entire appeal to me.
In Utero is an entirely underrated Nirvana album. As a whole, I like it much better than Nevermind.
Please join my cult. It's a cult for people who like RHCP more with Hillel Slovak than John Frusciante.
Who was it who also thought Parachutes was pretty good? Was it Drek? I can't remember. All I know is that Don't Panic, Spies, and Yellow are very good songs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZtkv-GIElA is probably my favorite Coldplay thing. Please listen to it. I can understand hating Clocks, Speed of Sound, Fix You, etc., but this is a great song.
OK, I didn't know that. I thought they were just really weird. But now I see that there's a legitimate (okay, that's a stretch) reason for all the lyrical confusion, long-winded album names, etc. That is really weird, though. And Claudio Sanchez moves further up the list of "least favorite musicians".
I swore never to willingly listen to Dashboard Confessional ever again after I heard Don't Wait for the fourth or so time. Otherwise, I'd try and see if I could find some redeeming qualities in their early stuff.
Of everybody I know who considers themself a Nirvana fan, I only know two people who like Nevermind more than In Utero. As evidenced by my avatar, I am not one of those two people.
Drek liked it? Must be awful. Seriously, Yellow makes my skin crawl. Can't stand the song. I can't even really explain why.
Well, even with the CDs telling the story that he's writing in his comics... it still doesn't explain the lyrical confusion. Or why the songs on the CD are out of order chronologically. And the graphic novel is awful. But hey, they're committed.
Like I said, I don't like them because of their lyrics (although I do enjoy some of them) or his voice. I like them because of the instrumentation.
I don't think they'd be up your alley. Acousticy, angsty, whiny... I really only listen to him when something awful's happened to me. When someone thought of using the term "emo" again in music, they probably had just finished listening to The Places You Have Come to Fear the Most.
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