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    Quote Originally Posted by FellsPointOsFan
    Never trust a Canadian.

    Ninety percent of their population is poised within a hundred miles of our homeland. There's nothing stopping them from storming across the longest *undefended* border in the world. They've been quietly infilitrating our society for decades.

    Don't ever turn your back on those wily, inscrutable Canadians.

    We should trade Loewen for the same reason.
    Wow, I knew that the rest of what you said was true... but inscrutable as well?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RZNJ
    Be careful about juding someone based on the media. Some guys, for whatever reason are just not good with the media and get branded as headcases or bad guys when it isn't necesarily the case. That being said, it seems as though some of these reports are coming from the organization which is worrisome.
    Very true.

    Bedard was pretty standoffish towards me early in his career, but after awhile he seemed to open up a bit, especially when we use to talk behind home plate as he was charting pitches. He's not going to be a dynamic interview and if he doesn't know you, he's not going to be very outgoing.

    That being said, there still may be some concerns about him within the organization. Not everyone, but not all whispers and rumors are false.

    Personally, unless we're using him to get a big bat, I'd like to see what Mazzone can do with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony-OH
    Very true.

    Bedard was pretty standoffish towards me early in his career, but after awhile he seemed to open up a bit, especially when we use to talk behind home plate as he was charting pitches. He's not going to be a dynamic interview and if he doesn't know you, he's not going to be very outgoing.

    That being said, there still may be some concerns about him within the organization. Not everyone, but not all whispers and rumors are false.

    Personally, unless we're using him to get a big bat, I'd like to see what Mazzone can do with him.

    Tony, what is your take, in hindsight, on his knee injury? WildBill posted that the O's never found any injury yet it was reported that they did an MRI and there was a strained MCL.

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    Mussina was not known as a media darling either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony-OH
    Very true.

    Bedard was pretty standoffish towards me early in his career, but after awhile he seemed to open up a bit, especially when we use to talk behind home plate as he was charting pitches. He's not going to be a dynamic interview and if he doesn't know you, he's not going to be very outgoing.
    That's true. Bedard's post-game interviews are always amusingly standoffish.

    REPORTER: "How did you feel out there tonight?"
    BEDARD: "I felt good."
    (long pause, reporter waits for Bedard to continue...he doesn't)
    REPORTER: "Did you feel like you had your best stuff?"
    BEDARD: "Yeah, I guess."
    (another long pause)
    REPORTER: "Are you annoyed by the lack of run support?"
    BEDARD: "Nah. That's baseball."
    (long pause; reporters gradually give up and walk off)

    I can see why some in the media would be annoyed, but I think it's pretty funny. He answers every question--he just doesn't elaborate. I think I'd do the same thing in his position.

    Besides, not wanting to talk and not wanting to pitch are two very different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulFolk
    Besides, not wanting to talk and not wanting to pitch are two very different things.
    That is what bothers me about Bedard. Like I said my sources are the WNST morning show guys, so I take everything there with a grain of salt. But while they are goofballs (to put it mildly) they rarely go around spouting total BS, and other reports seem to back this up coming from within the Org.

    His "phantom" knee injury: could it be he was scared to reinjur his knee, or something more malicious on his part.

    If its just his media repoire getting blown out of proportion thats no big deal, but we should still keep an eye on him this spring and this season he could be deadline trade-bait

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    Paul -- that (hypothetical?) exchange is just hysterical. Bedard is a far cry from major-league-rookie Nuke LaLoosh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentJames
    That is what bothers me about Bedard. Like I said my sources are the WNST morning show guys, so I take everything there with a grain of salt. But while they are goofballs (to put it mildly) they rarely go around spouting total BS, and other reports seem to back this up coming from within the Org.

    His "phantom" knee injury: could it be he was scared to reinjur his knee, or something more malicious on his part.

    If its just his media repoire getting blown out of proportion thats no big deal, but we should still keep an eye on him this spring and this season he could be deadline trade-bait
    No way do I think Bedard this to hurt the organization. If he was doing that, he should have shut himself down when he couldnt hit his spots after his return.

    And even if you did entertain that thought, I dont see how Eric Bedard has made enough money in his career to be malicious at this point in time. Bedard knew that last year was a great start for him and it was probably his first "money" season and by missing time and struggling after he returned he blew at least a million when his first arbitration comes around. It's entirely possible that he is hypocondriac or slow healer but I dont see why a player in Bedard's position could even think about quitting on his team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RZNJ
    Tony, what is your take, in hindsight, on his knee injury? WildBill posted that the O's never found any injury yet it was reported that they did an MRI and there was a strained MCL.
    I don't know one way or the other about whether he was "officially" hurt or not, but what I do know is that at the time, he was pitching well, and the Orioles were doing well, so why would he fake an injury?

    Personally, I think it was bothering him and he didn't want to risk going out there for the fear of compensating in his delivery and possibly reinjuring his arm. It's a vaild concern for him.

    With him not being a dynamic personality, and without any obvious damage on the MRI, I could see his actions being taken a bit of context by some within the organization.

    But let's remember, he worked very hard to come back from Tommy John surgery ahead of schedule so that tells me a little bit about his desire. He may not show it, but to get where he is today, he has to have some type of internal drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony-OH
    I don't know one way or the other about whether he was "officially" hurt or not, but what I do know is that at the time, he was pitching well, and the Orioles were doing well, so why would he fake an injury?
    I agree - what would possibly have gone through Bedard's mind to fake an injury when he was doing so well? I am not sure I buy that he was faking an injury in the beginning. I think these questions about Bedard arise from the fact that he took longer to recover from the initial injury than originally expected. I could understand if some are questioning whether he should have returned to the rotation quicker after his injury, and whether in the final stages of his DL stint he was ready to pitch and he was reluctant to return.

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    I know nothing and Im not guessing anything but there could be reasons to "fake an injury". If I'm not mistaken MLB doesnt drug test anyone on the DL. If an athlete were to party one night and do an illegal drug or maybe rub some cream that makes his muscles bulge then panic about it he might want to be on the DL for about six weeks to make sure it cleared his system.

    Please dont give me neg points because Im not saying anyone did it. I just say that someone could.

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    Wasn't Barry Bonds tested this year? He was on the DL for the majority of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nadecir
    I agree - what would possibly have gone through Bedard's mind to fake an injury when he was doing so well? I am not sure I buy that he was faking an injury in the beginning. I think these questions about Bedard arise from the fact that he took longer to recover from the initial injury than originally expected. I could understand if some are questioning whether he should have returned to the rotation quicker after his injury, and whether in the final stages of his DL stint he was ready to pitch and he was reluctant to return.
    The inside sources were trying to figure that out also. He was "lights out" when his knee hurt and was terrible when he came back. The organization was very frustrated that they could not find an injury, not to say that he was not injured, but the MRI's were negative and no one ever found a problem. Who knows, other organizations have missed injuries also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Dave
    Not sure about the house, but Manny HATES the spotlight, and its widely reported- get this- that he thinks leaving the Indians for MEGA bucks was the worst thing he's ever done. If I recall, the Indians were ready to offer him a tidy sum to stay, but nothing like what the Sox offered.
    You're right. Apparently, the union put pressure on him for the good of all players to take the most money because it would help everyone else cash in. That's what I love about unions. Always putting the good of the collective ahead of the individual.

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    Bonds wasnt tested that I know of until he came off the DL. I remember reading articles actually speculating that was the reason he went on the DL. And that is where I got the idea from.

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