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    Quote Originally Posted by Belkast
    This is what I have been saying. Flanny has more control then any other person has had in the same position under PGA. Guys I can tell you, we are going to see a totally different FO. We haven't seen anything yet...wait for the series to be over.

    Signs are encouraging but it's too early to tell. I'm still a bit reserved about this one and while Flanny was vocal that it was his decision- what else is he gonna say? I seem to remember Syd Thrift (another guy who "had PA's ear") state that the moves during his tenure were his decision as well. Not everything is how it seems. Time will tell, but I'm semi-optamistic here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belkast
    Maybe he did maybe he didn't but I didn't read any quotes from PGA about him.
    Not quotes from PGA, but this is from the Washington Post article:

    One source close to the Orioles said Ritterpusch had alienated owner Peter Angelos by speaking publicly too often of his beliefs in psychological testing, which the owner believed put the franchise in a bad light.

    "He was a little too public," the source said. "Peter didn't like him being too public."

    Angelos did not return a phone call yesterday

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    I have met Ritterpusch and his assitant Eddie a few times.I thought Dave was a good guy --He was out-spoken but he seemed to really believe his ideas.He would talk about his dislike for certain players and maybe they didn't like that or maybe he was just coming on a little too strong or maybe Flanny just wanted to go another direction? I would like to find more about the situation.

    Eddie was a very nice guy.I thought he was very Realistic when talking about players expectations.He was young (30 ish?) so hopefully he finds another job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brachd
    Signs are encouraging but it's too early to tell. I'm still a bit reserved about this one and while Flanny was vocal that it was his decision- what else is he gonna say? I seem to remember Syd Thrift (another guy who "had PA's ear") state that the moves during his tenure were his decision as well. Not everything is how it seems. Time will tell, but I'm semi-optamistic here.
    Point taken...When you do realize....remember you heard it from me first

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cokeman
    Not quotes from PGA, but this is from the Washington Post article:

    One source close to the Orioles said Ritterpusch had alienated owner Peter Angelos by speaking publicly too often of his beliefs in psychological testing, which the owner believed put the franchise in a bad light.

    "He was a little too public," the source said. "Peter didn't like him being too public."

    Angelos did not return a phone call yesterday
    Maybe they had a Mike Preston source

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    As far as the Bedard debate goes, I would only trade him if we get back a true stud, like Miguel Cabrera. I don't think I would trade him for Dunn.

    I think the character issues with Bedard are vastly overblown. None of this was an issue when he was near the AL lead in ERA. At worst he is just a slow healer, or maybe not too tough. At best, he's a legit #1 starter, he's got that good of stuff and he showed at the begining of the season that he can possess good enough command to pitch that way for an extended period.

    I think with Mazzone working with him, he can have several great seasons. We've got him under club control, for very cheap, for the next 4 seasons, at the end of which he'll be 30. Thats still in his prime, and it'd be a shame to trade him away just as he enters his best years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belkast
    Maybe he did maybe he didn't but I didn't read any quotes from PGA about him.

    Well lets just say that my source is extremely close to the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy
    Well lets just say that my source is extremely close to the situation.
    All I'm a saying is that it was Flanny's decision. Did PGA not like the guy? Probably but he didn't influence Flannys decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belkast
    All I'm a saying is that it was Flanny's decision. Did PGA not like the guy? Probably but he didn't influence Flannys decision.

    Again, Flanny may have had the final decision but lets just say that PA was not exactly going to stop him. PA was not happy about some of the things that happened before Ritterspusch left.

    Flanny may have had the final say but you can bet PA said, i would prefer him gone but do what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy
    So we go after Millwood and AJ.
    My thoughts exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg65
    My thoughts exactly.
    I think I was the first one to have those thoughts back in the Wild Bill "Hang on for the ride" thread....so nyahhh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony-OH
    I like [Hudgens'] approach in having hitters look in zones for pitches along the flight path of the thrown pitch.
    Sounds Ted Williams-like...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Bill
    You address the pitching needs first then trade for bats. Without good pitching doesn't matter what bats you sign.
    Agreed, and btw Bill, thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belkast
    This is what I have been saying. Flanny has more control then any other person has had in the same position under PGA. Guys I can tell you, we are going to see a totally different FO. We haven't seen anything yet...wait for the series to be over.
    We've seen Steinbrenner step back from time to time only to reinsert himself time and again. Trust me, with the Orioles payroll, Steinbrenner would be just as much a disaster as PGA's reign has been.

    No one here can promise that PGA won't keep his nose in the baseball decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockbird
    I think I was the first one to have those thoughts back in the Wild Bill "Hang on for the ride" thread....so nyahhh.
    Oh yeah!! Well.... well... nyahhh to you too

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