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  1. 07-21-2006 01:28 PM #16
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    He actually said a half a dozen teams won't deal with the O's, not a dozen. Still depressing, though...
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  2. 07-21-2006 01:28 PM #17
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    Its all about Angelos with this team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLink21
    Sure. I am sorry about that. Tony said that over the last 2 weeks The O's have had two trades completed, but either they couldnt get a hold of Angelos and by the time they did the deal was pulled or he vetoed it. He also said there is about 12 teams that will not deal with us because of the way Angelos runs the team. Its just sad to hear this stuff!
    Holy bleep! If that's true, it's time for a serious fan revolt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLink21
    Sure. I am sorry about that. Tony said that over the last 2 weeks The O's have had two trades completed, but either they couldnt get a hold of Angelos and by the time they did the deal was pulled or he vetoed it. He also said there is about 12 teams that will not deal with us because of the way Angelos runs the team. Its just sad to hear this stuff!
    Tony, can you elaborate on this when you get a chance?

    What were the trades that didn't go down?
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    (Tony - please correct if I misinterpret. I know things can get twisted out of context).

    Most discouraging thing I've heard thus far is the fact that PA continues to micromanage to the detriment of the club. Tony mentioned two trades were reportedly pretty much already worked out, and before they could get "approved" (or whatever) by the owner, the deals were off the table. He also mentioned the declaration by PA that Tejada won't be traded. It hamstrings the FO, and it makes teams reluctant to deal with the club. I believe Tony mentioned that there might be a half-dozen clubs who don't (or are reluctant) to deal with the O's because of this type of thing.

    In my opinion, from listening to this, it sounds like the efforts of other FO members to improve the club are severely limited by the slow, methodical nature of the owner. Given that, I'll be shocked if any of the "good" deals mentioned on here get done by the deadline.

    Tony's now talking about the minor league clubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krimka
    He actually said a half a dozen teams won't deal with the O's, not a dozen. Still depressing, though...
    Embarrasing is the word I would use.

    Pathetic also comes to mind.

    Laughable even.....
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    How long does Duquette hang around with Angelos being the way he is????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frobby
    Holy bleep! If that's true, it's time for a serious fan revolt.
    Yeah, for serious.

    I'll be interested to see Tony elaborate on this in a post later on. But this sounds really bad.
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  9. 07-21-2006 01:31 PM #24
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    I wouldn't be a bit surprised if D. isn't gone by the end of the year.
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  10. 07-21-2006 01:32 PM #25
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    You know, I was just starting to believe that PA wasn't as involved so he could focus on MASN. But this is just horrific. Wow, I have never been more infuriated than I am now with this organization.

    It is seriously time for a fan revolt. We need to do SOMETHING to get back OUR team!
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  11. 07-21-2006 01:33 PM #26
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    He said his source didnt say the exacts of the trades. He went on for about 10 mins talking about how EVERYTHING in the organization has to be ran through Angelos before it is done from trades, drafting, SIGNING of draft picks, and even the PR decisions. The worst part of the whole thing was that he was asked if Angelos knows how hated he is and if there was a chance for him to change and Tony flat out said from everything he is hearing that he doesnt seem to know and will never change. I was hoping Toney meant good news when he posted he was going to be on with news.
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    Thee have probably been 1,000 threads saying that the O's would never compete until PA sold the team. I've always felt that was hyperbole, but now I am changing my mind.
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    Tony mentioned that he spoke to another organization's scout who had seen Billy Rowell play before he was drafted and he said "He'll either be a superstar or be stuck in A-Ball".
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  14. 07-21-2006 01:33 PM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoscowBird
    How long does Duquette hang around with Angelos being the way he is????
    The most upsetting part is it seems like Duquette is working a lot better than Beattie did, but he just has one factor in his way.
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  15. 07-21-2006 01:33 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Dish
    You know, I was just starting to believe that PA wasn't as involved so he could focus on MASN. But this is just horrific. Wow, I have never been more infuriated than I am now with this organization.

    It is seriously time for a fan revolt. We need to do SOMETHING to get back OUR team!
    Agreed.. now it is time for us to stop talking the talk and start walking the walk..
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