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    Payton to get majority of starts in LF

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/b...ports-baseball
    A day after acknowledging Jay Gibbons will not be playing first base any time soon, Orioles manager Sam Perlozzo took his strongest stance yet on the left-field situation, saying Jay Payton will get the majority of starts there.

    "We got Jay Payton to play left field most of the time, I would think, or at least a good portion of the time," Perlozzo said. "I think that is a normal assumption. We didn't go out and get him to sit the bench."

    It was originally thought Aubrey Huff, another free-agent signing, could get a lot of starts in left, but it appears he'll play mostly first base. That leaves Gibbons and Kevin Millar battling for at-bats at designated hitter.
    Okay, so there goes the theory that Payton is the short half of a platoon or will be spending much time on the bench. Huff is pretty much the first baseman. Looks like Gibbons and Millar will form some sort of twisted DH platoon.

    Thoughts? I know mine are not appropriate for this forum


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    Perlozzo is going to cost this team a chance to contend...I really believe that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy View Post
    Perlozzo is going to cost this team a chance to contend...I really believe that.
    Well, you know LF is a premium defensive position, and it's not like we project to have a high-strikeout staff or anything.

    And there will always be Paul Bako or Freddy Bynum to pinch hit.

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    Markakis, Patterson and Gibbons should be our regular OF -- subject to change when a lefty is going...GOD IS THIS SO HARD TO COMPREHEND!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leitch View Post
    Well, you know LF is a premium defensive position, and it's not like we project to have a high-strikeout staff or anything.

    And there will always be Paul Bako or Freddy Bynum to pinch hit.
    No mention of Huff playing third once a week or so.

    Perlozzo has alot of versatility right there for him and they don't seem to talk about it.

    He acts as if his players can play one position and one position only.

    And then, he just basically throws away any idea that we struggle versus lefties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManagerInOverHisHead
    "It doesn't do you any good if you are a right-handed bat and you can't do anything but hit," Perlozzo said. "We're looking for someone who has to have some flexibility to do something else for us.
    Yeah, god forbid we had a RH batter who hits. Much better to have a LH batter who can't hit, but can play 6 positions.

    At least 50% of the blame goes to Duquette. You knew that Payton wasn't being paid 2/9.75 to be a part-timer. Looks to like we will be hearing some whining from Kevin Millar about the 2nd week in April. Platoon is not in Sam Perlozzo's dictionary. He doesn't even have the aptitude to platoon Patterson.

    BTW, if they are looking at Eduardo Perez, he is exactly a RH hitter who can only hit. Mixed signals?

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    So Sammy, what is better?

    A no hit, average fielding, speedy UTI guy or a guy who can be average defensively and hit lefties to a 850+ OPS?

    Does he actually think that a guy like Bynum is more valuable than Knott?

    Oh wait, are we misreading the tea leaves again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy View Post
    Does he actually think that a guy like Bynum is more valuable than Knott?
    Looks that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy View Post
    So Sammy, what is better?

    A no hit, average fielding, speedy UTI guy or a guy who can be average defensively and hit lefties to a 850+ OPS?

    Does he actually think that a guy like Bynum is more valuable than Knott?

    Oh wait, are we misreading the tea leaves again?
    Can someone tell Sammy to call Bobby Cox and ask him about Matt Diaz? I think Sammy missed a class in Managing 101. Hey! Sammy thinks he's a genius because Hernandez had his best season ever. He thinks he's responsible.

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    The Orioles would like to have another right-handed bat on the bench, but, at this point, flexibility is probably the most important thing.

    "It doesn't do you any good if you are a right-handed bat and you can't do anything but hit,"
    Perlozzo said. "We're looking for someone who has to have some flexibility to do something else for us. That's the mix that we are kind of looking at. Do we want some speed? Do we want some defense? Do we want the bat? Does the right-handed bat not mean as much to us as defense and speed? As we get closer, we'll see if we can't come up with that answer."

    Dubois had several chances at first, but allowed Eric Reed's double to get under his glove in the second and he also couldn't field Mike Jacobs' bouncer in the fifth. Meanwhile, Bynum, who Perlozzo also said could be given a look at first base, handled all his chances at shortstop flawlessly.
    I think we just lost our shot at a winning record, unless the pitching does a really good impression of the '65 Dodgers rotation.

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    Somewhat related but here are my two lineups versus lefties and righties


    Vs. righties

    Roberts, 2b
    Markakis, LF
    Tejada, SS
    Huff, 1B
    Gibbons, RF
    Mora, 3B
    Hernandez, C
    Millar, DH
    Patterson, CF


    Versus lefties

    Roberts, 2b
    Markakis, CF
    Tejada, SS
    Huff, RF
    Mora, 3B
    Hernandez, C
    Payton, LF
    Millar, 1B
    DH whoever is hot at the moment, Knott all things being equal but who even knows if he is going to make the team at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TejadaTheyFall View Post
    Knott[...]but who even knows if he is going to make the team at this point.
    If they're giving Bynum a look at first base , or even entertaining that notion, you can pretty much write off Knott/Dubois/House being anything but the heart of the Norfolk lineup.

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    Just wait, they will bring Bynum to Baltimore, someone will get hurt, and we will have ourselves a regular who will give us a .750 OPS. YES!!!

    Oh wait, but he plays wicked defense......

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    Quote Originally Posted by TejadaTheyFall View Post
    Somewhat related but here are my two lineups versus lefties and righties


    Vs. righties

    Roberts, 2b
    Markakis, LF
    Tejada, SS
    Huff, 1B
    Gibbons, RF
    Mora, 3B
    Hernandez, C
    Millar, DH
    Patterson, CF


    Versus lefties

    Roberts, 2b
    Markakis, CF
    Tejada, SS
    Huff, RF
    Mora, 3B
    Hernandez, C
    Payton, LF
    Millar, 1B
    DH whoever is hot at the moment, Knott all things being equal but who even knows if he is going to make the team at this point.
    You're making it too complicated.

    VS RHP

    2B Roberts
    3B Mora
    RF Markakis
    SS Tejada
    1B Huff
    C Hernandez
    LF Gibbons
    DH Millar
    CF Patterson

    VS LHP

    2B Roberts & Gomez rotate 50%
    3B Mora
    RF Markakis
    SS Mora
    1B Huff
    C Hernandez
    LF Knott
    DH Millar
    CF Payton


    Payton is the odd man out. Only starts in CF vs. LHP. Millar starts everday. Lucky guy. Gibbons & Knott platoon in LF.

    If you want to go defensive. Gibbons DH's vs. RHP with Payton in LF. Against LHP, Payton in CF, Knott in LF, Millar at DH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leitch View Post
    If they're giving Bynum a look at first base , or even entertaining that notion, you can pretty much write off Knott/Dubois/House being anything but the heart of the Norfolk lineup.


    That whole "picture is worth a thousand words" saying never has rang so true.

    Just when you think the organization gets it, just when you think they're done with dumb moves that don't make sense, talking about bringing in old fartknockers and questionable roster selections they just get right back in there and prove you wrong.

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