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    Quote Originally Posted by Malike View Post
    Well unless you count his last stint in the ML with the Pad's where he was horrible for 60AB's or so off the bench.
    Jon Knott has had a total of eighteen plate appearances over his entire career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy View Post
    There is absolutely no reason to think Knott will not be able to play part time to hit lefties.
    Assuming that he will be able to do it isn't particularly smart either. The only way to determine if he can do it is to try him in the role. You must admit that this will be a totally new role for him to fill at a totally new playing level. The possibility that it won't work is not nearly as remote as you're making it sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leitch View Post
    Jon Knott has had a total of eighteen plate appearances over his entire career.
    Thanks for the clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vatech1994 View Post
    Thank you

    It amazes me how frequently guys are behind the need for defense in theory, but discard it entirely when it comes time to actually write down names in a line up. Just because we can't quantify how much really poor range in the OF would cost us doesn't mean it isn't a large number. Every time an inning continues because a ball that should have been caught wasn't, the rest of the inning was preventable. Since balls that aren't reached are hits, not errors, all of these runs created from that "hit" and anything that follows in the inning as a result of the extra out that was magically granted go down as earned, but they are very preventable.
    It also amazes me how you are treating Bynum as if he is a good defensive OFer and when i mean good, you are acting as if he is a plus plus defender and that negates his bat and that is totally false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy View Post
    There is absolutely no reason to think Knott will not be able to play part time to hit lefties.
    There is reason to wonder whether he could do it or not. Any player will tell you that the ability to play irregularly and still be able to hit well is a skill that not all players have. Maybe Knott could, maybe he couldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vatech1994 View Post
    Assuming that he will be able to do it isn't particularly smart either. The only way to determine if he can do it is to try him in the role. You must admit that this will be a totally new role for him to fill at a totally new playing level. The possibility that it won't work is not nearly as remote as you're making it sound.
    Thanks Sammy Perlozzo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy View Post
    It also amazes me how you are treating Bynum as if he is a good defensive OFer and when i mean good, you are acting as if he is a plus plus defender and that negates his bat and that is totally false.
    No, I'm not. Please provide me with the quotes where I did that. I think Bynum is much better than Gibbons, Huff, or Millar in the OF, but that ain't saying a lot. All of these guys are below average. Bynum definitely has well above average range in the outfield. I watched him this spring and that is not up for discussion. I also saw some concentration issues, but I saw those on the basepaths and in the infield. He played a very good outfield while I was watching. Overall, I would think Bynum is a bit better than average in the outfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vatech1994 View Post
    No, I'm not. Please provide me with the quotes where I did that. I think Bynum is much better than Gibbons, Huff, or Millar in the OF, but that ain't saying a lot. All of these guys are below average. Bynum definitely has well above average range in the outfield. I watched him this spring and that is not up for discussion. I also saw some concentration issues, but I saw those on the basepaths and in the infield. He played a very good outfield while I was watching. Overall, I would think Bynum is a bit better than average in the outfield.
    Well, Davearm watched him all last year and said his lack of hustle and his lapses frustrated fans.

    A bit better is not good enough to justify him being here over Knott(same with Dubois but he is hurt right now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frobby View Post
    There is reason to wonder whether he could do it or not. Any player will tell you that the ability to play irregularly and still be able to hit well is a skill that not all players have. Maybe Knott could, maybe he couldn't.
    Ok, fine..Let's just stay with this bench. We can have another year where our bench is awful we can't get a pinch hit and can't hit lefties.

    That is a much better plan.

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    Ok, fine..Let's just stay with this bench. We can have another year where our bench is awful we can't get a pinch hit and can't hit lefties.

    That is a much better plan.

    Thanks Sammy Perlozzo.


    OK, I'm done with this thread. When you get like this, I have zero desire to interact with you. Have a good night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vatech1994 View Post
    Ok, fine..Let's just stay with this bench. We can have another year where our bench is awful we can't get a pinch hit and can't hit lefties.

    That is a much better plan.

    Thanks Sammy Perlozzo.


    OK, I'm done with this thread. When you get like this, I have zero desire to interact with you. Have a good night.
    What i said is true VaTech. Your reasoning is the same as Perlozzo's, so i would think you would take it as a compliment.

    And the whole idea of, well you don't know for usre if so and so is going to be successful is a joke. Of course you don't know but you KNOW that many of the players we do choose aren't going to be successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy View Post
    What i said is true VaTech. Your reasoning is the same as Perlozzo's, so i would think you would take it as a compliment.

    And the whole idea of, well you don't know for usre if so and so is going to be successful is a joke. Of course you don't know but you KNOW that many of the players we do choose aren't going to be successful.
    Seriously LOL. If we know ANYTHING its that we dont know ANYTHING at all. Good god man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy View Post
    What i said is true VaTech. Your reasoning is the same as Perlozzo's, so i would think you would take it as a compliment.

    And the whole idea of, well you don't know for usre if so and so is going to be successful is a joke. Of course you don't know but you KNOW that many of the players we do choose aren't going to be successful.
    You don't even get how obnoxious you are, do you? I never, ever wrote that Knott shouldn't be tried as a platoon off the bench. I wrote that we shouldn't ASSUME he will be successful doing it because of the differences between his minor league success and what we would be asking him to do. I still think Knott should be given the opportunity to succeed or fail in that role and have stated as much in this thread several times. However, you mistate my argument to make it easier to attack AND act condescendingly at the same time. There is no point in continuing when that happens.

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    You don't even get how obnoxious you are, do you?
    I respect the hell out of your opinion but this is rich coming from you.
    I never, ever wrote that Knott shouldn't be tried as a platoon off the bench. I wrote that we shouldn't ASSUME he will be successful doing it because of the differences between his minor league success and what we would be asking him to do. I still think Knott should be given the opportunity to succeed or fail in that role and have stated as much in this thread several times. However, you mistate my argument to make it easier to attack AND act condescendingly at the same time. There is no point in continuing when that happens.
    Well, since that part of the comment was directed at Frobby, i am not sure where this is coming from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by italianstallion View Post
    Just watch: Duq will be canned before Perlozzo will. It's "The Way of the Angelos" - fire the smart ones and promote the incompetent ones.
    I hope you're wrong, but history is on your side.

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