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    Give Sam P. a chance

    I believe Sam can make this team once they are healthy. Since the begining of the year he has solved how to use his bullpen-the rest will come in a week or 2. chill the o's are 7-7, .500 there is still a lot of baseball to be played.

    PS:This post is in refrenece to the many people who believe Perlozzo is a bad manager. Remember Perlozzo still doesn't have a complete season as a Orioles manager yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sammyjoe1 View Post
    I believe Sam can make this team once they are healthy. Since the begining of the year he has solved how to use his bullpen-the rest will come in a week or 2. chill the o's are 7-7, .500 there is still a lot of baseball to be played.

    PS:This post is in refrenece to the many people who believe Perlozzo is a bad manager. Remember Perlozzo still doesn't have a complete season as a Orioles manager yet.
    2006 was a complete season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammyjoe1 View Post
    I believe Sam can make this team once they are healthy. Since the begining of the year he has solved how to use his bullpen-the rest will come in a week or 2. chill the o's are 7-7, .500 there is still a lot of baseball to be played.

    PS:This post is in refrenece to the many people who believe Perlozzo is a bad manager. Remember Perlozzo still doesn't have a complete season as a Orioles manager yet.
    He managed 162 games last year and 55 the year before. We've gotten to see 217 Sammy P. managed games. How many more do we have to give him before we're allowed to pass judgment on his managerial style?

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    Bullpen has been used pretty decent.

    The bench has NOT. Bynum, Bako, and Castillo? Perlozzo is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FruitLoopKid View Post
    He managed 162 games last year and 55 the year before. We've gotten to see 217 Sammy P. managed games. How many more do we have to give him before we're allowed to pass judgment on his managerial style?

    217 games and he JUST won his 100th game in Tampa on Monday. That's a .460 winning percentage! Great Job Sammy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammyjoe1 View Post
    I believe Sam can make this team once they are healthy. Since the debacle last Wednesday, he has solved how to use his bullpen-the rest will come in a week or 2. chill the o's are 7-7, .500 there is still a lot of baseball to be played.

    PS:This post is in refrenece to the many people who believe Perlozzo is a bad manager. Remember Perlozzo still doesn't have a complete season as a Orioles manager yet.
    Fixed part of that for you. And I don't think anyone would deny that Sam has been forced to manage with less than a full arsenal so far. But the fact is that even with injuries he still has some resources available that he is not utilizing to full potential, while relying heavily on other resources that are highly unlikely to pay dividends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birds of B'more View Post
    Fixed part of that for you. And I don't think anyone would deny that Sam has been forced to manage with less than a full arsenal so far. But the fact is that even with injuries he still has some resources available that he is not utilizing to full potential, while relying heavily on other resources that are highly unlikely to pay dividends.
    His arsenal is even more depleted since he decided to leave most of his shotguns sitting in his gunrack at home while he went off to war with some broke-a$$ waterguns and dry-rotted rubber-band guns.

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    The man has extremely capable, hard hitting solutions in the minors, yet keeps fast runners with no batting skill or base running instincts whatsoever, a catcher who can not catch a ball for the life of him (Bako) and can't hit in the process, and another catcher who just is atrocious at the plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birds of B'more View Post
    Fixed part of that for you. And I don't think anyone would deny that Sam has been forced to manage with less than a full arsenal so far. But the fact is that even with injuries he still has some resources available that he is not utilizing to full potential, while relying heavily on other resources that are highly unlikely to pay dividends.
    Yes, for once (I believe because of the AAA move) we have players that are worthy of a MLB bench and they aren't being used.

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    You either got it or you don't. Would you want a doctor, learning on the job my his many mistakes, operating on you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birds of B'more View Post
    But the fact is that even with injuries he still has some resources available that he is not utilizing to full potential, while relying heavily on other resources that are highly unlikely to pay dividends.
    I think this was a good way of assessing the situation. He's made choices that have made more learned baseball men on here nearly cry. And when it's obvious enough that I'm seeing the flaws in the decision making, I'd say it's a problem. I'm primarily concerned with bullpen management and the lackluster bench at the moment. Without a successful season of wins to back up his thought processes, I'll probably remain unconvinced.

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    I guess this goes to prove that just because you can manage successfully in the minors doesn't mean you can in the majors.

    Perlozzo became a manager in the Mets minor league system following the end of his playing days. In 1982, he managed the New York-Penn League Little Fall Mets to a 38-38 record, which was good for third place. The Mets promoted Perlozzo in 1983 to manage the A Lynchburg Mets, where he went 96-43 and won the Carolina League title and was named Carolina League Manager of the Year. Again, in 1984, Perlozzo was promoted to the AA Jackson Mets where he finished 83-53, which was good for first and won the Texas League crown and was named Manager of the Year by Baseball America. Success continued for Perlozzo and the Jackson Mets in 1985, as he led them to a 73-63 record which was another first place record and another championship, which was Perlozzo's third straight. This earned Perlozzo a promotion to the AAA Tidewater Tides in 1986, where he led them to a 74-66 record which was good for 4th place. Perlozzo ended his minor league career with a 364-263(.581) record in five seasons.

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    Maybe we should send him to the Tides?

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    Everyone here acknowledges that Ramon is a tough loss to absorb, but SP is showing that he does not know how to use the tools he has been provided.

    I don't think anyone could say with any certainty that a different manager would have won more than the 7 actual wins, but I think it is clear that SP has failed to put his team in the best position to win multiple times already this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byrdz View Post
    I guess this goes to prove that just because you can manage successfully in the minors doesn't mean you can in the majors.

    Perlozzo became a manager in the Mets minor league system following the end of his playing days. In 1982, he managed the New York-Penn League Little Fall Mets to a 38-38 record, which was good for third place. The Mets promoted Perlozzo in 1983 to manage the A Lynchburg Mets, where he went 96-43 and won the Carolina League title and was named Carolina League Manager of the Year. Again, in 1984, Perlozzo was promoted to the AA Jackson Mets where he finished 83-53, which was good for first and won the Texas League crown and was named Manager of the Year by Baseball America. Success continued for Perlozzo and the Jackson Mets in 1985, as he led them to a 73-63 record which was another first place record and another championship, which was Perlozzo's third straight. This earned Perlozzo a promotion to the AAA Tidewater Tides in 1986, where he led them to a 74-66 record which was good for 4th place. Perlozzo ended his minor league career with a 364-263(.581) record in five seasons.

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    Maybe we should send him to the Tides?
    Think about when that was. Over 20 years ago and how many managers have the Mets had since? Besides, the Mets minor leagues were loaded back then. Loaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byrdz View Post
    Maybe we should send him to the Tides?
    How many options does he have left?

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