Proctor Swapped For Betemit

[Dr. FLK]

From Rotoworld:

ESPNews reports that the Yankees have traded RHP Scott Proctor to the Dodgers for infielder Wilson Betemit.
A Proctor-for-Betemit swap has been talked about dating back to last season, when Betemit was still a Brave, but the Yankees were already rumored to be looking for bullpen help, which makes the timing odd. Proctor's arrival in Los Angeles could signal the end of the Dodgers' interest in Octavio Dotel. Betemit is deserving of more playing time than he received from the Dodgers, but doesn't figure to find regular at-bats behind Alex Rodriguez.

I guess this shows us the value of an RP. Bradford should have more value than Proctor, but not enough more to land someone like Milledge.

[square634]

Is it possible that Chris Ray (if he hadn't had the injury) had even more value than we thought?

[Sports Guy]

I always thought Ray had similar value to what he had in the offseason.

BTW, very solid trade for the Yanks IMO.

If/when AROD leaves, they have his repalcement.

[TGO]

I always thought Ray had similar value to what he had in the offseason.

BTW, very solid trade for the Yanks IMO.

If/when AROD leaves, they have his repalcement.

They also have the option of moving Cano at some point (either to another position or in a trade). From what I've heard Betemit should be able to handle 2B.

[Shopay]

That's a wash in by book.

[orioles119]

And has nothing to do with what the Orioles could get for Bradford.

[tywright]

MFY still need relief pitching

[Sports Guy]

Proctor has thrown a lot the last 1.5 years...You have to wonder if maybe the Yanks think he could wear down and struggle down the stretch??

[olehippi]

Proctor was definitely outhouse material in the minds of MFY management and fans. But the question begs, why are the Yankees, and other teams, able to trade away their crap, and the O's can't?

[blueberryale77]

They also have the option of moving Cano at some point (either to another position or in a trade). From what I've heard Betemit should be able to handle 2B.

Moving Cano other than when he's approaching free agency and getting expensive would be pretty silly of them, besides, Betemit's getting a little old to learn a new position and 2B is not the defensive throwaway some people seem to treat it as. Cano is not a great 2B but he's improved with each year and is decidedly better than a converted 3B would be. What I'm hearing from Yankee fans is that Betemit will get some at bats at 1B and serve as insurance in case ARod leaves after this year.

[Shopay]

Proctor was definitely outhouse material in the minds of MFY management and fans. But the question begs, why are the Yankees, and other teams, able to trade away their crap, and the O's can't?

I think Proctor has a pretty good arm but has simply been overworked the last couple of years. Plus, Betemit is not a huge upgrade.

[Camden_yardbird]

Proctor was definitely outhouse material in the minds of MFY management and fans. But the question begs, why are the Yankees, and other teams, able to trade away their crap, and the O's can't?

I was thinking this a few minutes ago. When I saw that trade went down, and that some think Boston has 4 really, really good pitching prospects, I thought - how could they do something by trading their okay prospects and we couldn't right now.

Part of the answer is, I think, that our FO has not been could at framing the value of our prospects too much. They often overvalue our prospects and that leads teams to believe our prospects are not as good as we say they are (even if they really are).

The second answer, I think, is that winning breeds confidence. Since Proctor came from a winning team, it inspires other teams to have confidence in not only what they say, and how they value their players (because they had to value them correctly to be winning), but also the credence that team has.

I see this trade roughly the equivalent of us trading Parrish for Betemit. But Parrish coming from the O's looks like a bad team getting rid of a worse player. Proctor coming from the MFY's looks like a good team getting rid of a player who is not a star, but still is above average.

[mikezpen]

Another thing that may be slowing the Orioles is how the John Maine trade backfired. Makes them more hesitant to deal pitching when, in reality, that's about all they have that's valuable.

[TGO]

Moving Cano other than when he's approaching free agency and getting expensive would be pretty silly of them, besides, Betemit's getting a little old to learn a new position and 2B is not the defensive throwaway some people seem to treat it as. Cano is not a great 2B but he's improved with each year and is decidedly better than a converted 3B would be. What I'm hearing from Yankee fans is that Betemit will get some at bats at 1B and serve as insurance in case ARod leaves after this year.

The guy came through the minors as a shortstop. He should, theoretically, be able to handle second. When the Braves moved him to third there were people saying he might have been better going to second, but at the time the Braves hadn't soured on Giles yet.

He will not hit enough to be a starting third baseman, I will tell you that right now. I'm not saying they should make the move now in the middle of a pennant race, just that it gives them the option in the future in the event they re-sign Rodriguez. Personally I think Betemit's best role is utility infielder. I don't like his bat as much as most. Still a pretty good deal for the Yankees, though.

[section34]

What's the 411 on Betemit? Seems like the Yanks could use the solid bullpen arm reather than this guy...