A few things

[SceffBmo]

During the game Thorne said something about the O's only getting cash now for Gomez could mean something could happen between the two teams in the off-season. Isn't that the end of the deal we get cash and they get Gomez ?

[Stevo5278]

During the game Thorne said something about the O's only getting cash now for Gomez could mean something could happen between the two teams in the off-season. Isn't that the end of the deal we get cash and they get Gomez ?

Remember last year we worked the Javy Lopez trade in 2 stages... We traded Javy to Boston for a PTBNL and then got Stern for cash in the offseason - probably for $1 just to formally close the trade.

I don't know if this applies here since the Javy deal was announced as a trade for a PTBNL while the Gomez situation sounds just like a straight waiver claim.

[Mark Carver]

Remember last year we worked the Javy Lopez trade in 2 stages... We traded Javy to Boston for a PTBNL and then got Stern for cash in the offseason - probably for $1 just to formally close the trade.

I don't know if this applies here since the Javy deal was announced as a trade for a PTBNL while the Gomez situation sounds just like a straight waiver claim.

The Orioles traded Lopez and sent $1.3m to the Red Sox for a PTBNL. Acquiring Stern later just finalized the deal.

Sporting News

BALTIMORE -- Javy Lopez was traded from the Baltimore Orioles to Boston on Friday, a deal that gives the former All-Star another chance to play and provides the Red Sox a replacement for injured catcher Jason Varitek.

The Orioles sent Lopez and $1.3 million to the Red Sox for a player to be named.

[SceffBmo]

Maybe it was just Gary Thorne mispeaking..... again.

[Mark Carver]

Maybe it was just Gary Thorne mispeaking..... again.

He really, really fumbled the whole waiver topic, first claiming that the order was based on last year standings. Palmer rightly so corrected him.

[Goop]

Thanks again for keeping us in the loop!

[PoorMike]

The Orioles traded Lopez and sent $1.3m to the Red Sox for a PTBNL. Acquiring Stern later just finalized the deal.

Sporting News

I'll have to find it, but like the other poster, there was some tricky rerd-tape with the trade and I do remember it being broken into two deals for some reason.

[tywright]

I'll have to find it, but like the other poster, there was some tricky rerd-tape with the trade and I do remember it being broken into two deals for some reason.

Tampa Bay claimed Stern so the Sox had to pull him back and wait 30 days before trading Stern

[Mark Carver]

I'll have to find it, but like the other poster, there was some tricky rerd-tape with the trade and I do remember it being broken into two deals for some reason.

It not unusual for a PTBNL to be sent to the new club at a later date. In Stern's case, he never cleared waivers in August, so he had to be sent after the season was over.

MLB Red Sox

Though catcher Javy Lopez is no longer a member of the Red Sox, the club officially completed the transaction that brought him aboard from the Orioles in August. The Red Sox announced on Tuesday that outfielder Adam Stern, a Rule 5 pick in December 2004, has been shipped to the Orioles.

Stern is the player to be named in the trade that brought Lopez to Boston on Aug. 4. The reason the Red Sox needed Lopez was the injury to captain Jason Varitek.

Lopez did not perform as well as the Red Sox would have hoped, as he hit .190 with no homers and four RBIs in 18 games. The Red Sox designated him for assignment on Sept. 8.

The reason Stern took so long to be transferred in the deal is that he had to pass through waivers, which the Red Sox were unsuccessful in doing in August. Once the season is over, waivers are no longer required to move players to another team.

[RShack]

It not unusual for a PTBNL to be sent to the new club at a later date.

Um, isn't that what the "L" in "PTBNL" stands for? It's not "Player to be named Right Now"...

[MorMarkTej]

PTBNL usually means, the player hasn't passed through waivers yet so they don't want announce to other teams which player has been agreed on. They then hope to sneak him through waivers but in that case, it didn't work out.

[tywright]

News on Fernando Cabrera

http://www.tbo.com/sports/rays/MGBI519FA5F.html

Former Indians RHP Fernando Cabrera can be signed by anyone when he clears release waivers today, and the Rays expect to get a deal done. The Orioles reportedly are also interested in the reliever.

The hard-throwing 25-year-old, who struck out 39 in 33 2/3 innings for the Indians this year, isn't eligible for arbitration until after the 2008 season.

[Dipper9]

Getting back to the few things topic and Gibby going on the DL. Why do the O's time after time treat everything like its confidential information being guarded by the FBI? I mean, I am positive that by now, 12:45 on Monday afternoon, that the O's are resting comfortably in New York City. I am sure the plane left sometime last eveing. Yet here we are, we still don't know if Gibby has been DL'd yet. We still don't know who is taking his spot on the team, although I'm sure this person is currently in New York with the team. I just don't get it. What's the damn secret here O's? Do you think that if the Yankees know we are bringing up Knott, or House, or resigning Rafael Palmeiro, that they will somehow have an advantage over us? Or do you think that by not announcing the move until later gives US some type of advantage? Announce the move already! Same with the Weiter's signing. If its done, announce it. I understand the whole Bud Selig verdict and all, but we are only 2 days away from the deadline. Are Weiters and Arietta signed? Are we not gonna sign them? What gives? Contrary to what they may believe, holding the news until Wednesday is not gonna make us any happier or make it some grand unvailing. Just tell us damnit!

Rant over!

[PoorMike]

Getting back to the few things topic and Gibby going on the DL. Why do the O's time after time treat everything like its confidential information being guarded by the FBI? I mean, I am positive that by now, 12:45 on Monday afternoon, that the O's are resting comfortably in New York City. I am sure the plane left sometime last eveing. Yet here we are, we still don't know if Gibby has been DL'd yet. We still don't know who is taking his spot on the team, although I'm sure this person is currently in New York with the team. I just don't get it. What's the damn secret here O's? Do you think that if the Yankees know we are bringing up Knott, or House, or resigning Rafael Palmeiro, that they will somehow have an advantage over us? Or do you think that by not announcing the move until later gives US some type of advantage? Announce the move already! Same with the Weiter's signing. If its done, announce it. I understand the whole Bud Selig verdict and all, but we are only 2 days away from the deadline. Are Weiters and Arietta signed? Are we not gonna sign them? What gives? Contrary to what they may believe, holding the news until Wednesday is not gonna make us any happier or make it some grand unvailing. Just tell us damnit!

Rant over!

The draft stuff could be cloak-and-dagger as to not affect other deals.

I don't know why the secrecy about JG though.




As for FCab, an insider said that a 'better' team was our main competition. It would suck to lose him to TB, though I guess he would get in live in Florida.

[jeff ballard]

Not sure if it's official yet but he will be on the DL shortly....I ran into Jay late last night at Bay Cafe and he didn't travel with the team to NY and is having the surgery tommorrow. He was really down to earth and approachable. After making fun of my pal's yankee cap, he said he actually hopes the Yanks catch the Sox because he thinks it would be funny.