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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli Eon View Post
    Precisely what I and several others have been espousing for some time now! Glad to see the OH is starting to come around on this!
    I was just throwing that out there to see what people thought. SG and Mack shot it down... and I was satisfied. Thus I didn't pursue it any farther...

    Don't use me to defend your untenable, implacable position!

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    Quote Originally Posted by makoman View Post
    One is Newhan? Dunno the other...
    Must be gumby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrungoHazewood View Post
    That's a tall order, wanting 100% bulletproof knowledge that Hernandez won't hit in the majors. That's just not going to happen. There's tens of thousands of players in major league history. I guarantee if you look long and hard enough you'll find someone who hit very poorly in the minors and fairly well in the majors. But the vast majority of the time that doesn't happen.

    I think it's good enough that we have about 90% certainty that he's a poor man's Brandon Fahey.
    No, no... that wasn't my point... I wasn't saying it has to be 100% to give it heavy weight... I'm not in any way arguing against the general point...

    I think the case is more compelling if we can know that it's 99.7% or 99.994% or whatever ("and here are some notable exceptions") than it is by just talking about it as if it's 100%... unless it really is (which I imagine it's not, but I really don't know).... to me, it's the difference between "knowledge" and "dogma" (rhetorically speaking, that is)...

    Plus, for no compelling reason, I'm just curious about who the exceptions might have been... and whether those exceptions were so-so nobodies vs. some freaky case of somebody famous...

    If there is somebody famous who was an exception, I think that would be grounds for them being even more noteworthy, don't you?
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    Seriously, baby Jesus only has so many tears left in his tear ducts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColumbiaOriole View Post
    Come on man, we don't want a silly little thing like facts to get in the way. I mean Santa Claus could be real. Do you have any proof that he doesn't deliver gifts to every kid in the world's house the night before Christmas? As for the poster who asked which SS the pitchers would rather have, I'd imagine it overwhelmingly be Tejada since they know the difference between a good ML hitter and a poor MiL hitter. I don't know why it's so hard to understand that the small difference in defensive ability is more than made up by Tejada's far superior offensive capabilities.
    Unless you start tracking or have been keeping track of how many game winning rbi's Tejada has accumulated versus how many game breaking errors or botched routine DP balls he has accumulated over the course of the season you have no way of proving this whatsover. For example, stats gurus like to point to they Pythegorean Theory on runs scored versus runs given up to project a W-L record, yet in the infamous 30-3 slaughter 26 of those runs were totally meaningless as far as winning that specific game. In other words they were mere stats padding that meant nothing when it comes to that theory in equating wins to losses, which is why I think theories like that are stupid.

    It is also stupid to argue by offensive versus defensive stats that Tejada is worthwhile keeping as a major league shortstop when all you need to do is look at what has been happening on the field.

    Again, unless you keep accumulated stats as to how many specific/individual games Tejada has won by his bat verus blown by his glove ( not talking about game winning hits versus errors but actual games lost like the 1-1 affair the other night where his blunder led to 4 more runs being scored versus his meaningless dinger) but actual direct cause and effect to individual games and I believe you will find Tejada is an albatross to this team as a shortstop.

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