A humiliating day for ACC Football

[Birds of B'more]

Oklahoma 51 - Miami 13
Nebraska 20 - Wake Forest 17
LSU 48 - Virginia Tech 7
East Carolina 34 - UNC 31

Oh, and the Terps struggled to beat the worst team in Division 1-A.

The ACC should lose its automatic BCS Bowl berth.

[geschinger]

Oklahoma 51 - Miami 10
Nebraska 20 - Wake Forest 17
LSU 48 - Virginia Tech 7
East Carolina 34 - UNC 31

Oh, and the Terps struggled to beat the worst team in Division 1-A.

The ACC should lose its automatic BCS Bowl berth.

The BEast really benefited from getting rid of dead weight. The ACC should of taken Syracuse as well

I'm kidding of course, but it is amazing how poor the ACC has been since raiding the BEast and how well the BEast has done since then. 3 top 15 teams and an emerging USF program that just went into Jordan-Hare Stadium and took out Auburn. Immediately after the raid all the talk was about how the BEast didn't deserve an automatic BCS birth. It's ironic that it's the ACC that has needed to be bailed out by the automatic bid.

[ledzepp8]

The BEast really benefited from getting rid of dead weight. The ACC should of taken Syracuse as well

I'm kidding of course, but it is amazing how poor the ACC has been since raiding the BEast and how well the BEast has done since then. 3 top 15 teams and an emerging USF program that just went into Jordan-Hare Stadium and took out Auburn. Immediately after the raid all the talk was about how the BEast didn't deserve an automatic BCS birth. It's ironic that it's the ACC that has needed to be bailed out by the automatic bid.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Great win for the USF program and great win for the Big East. Now maybe some of these whiny SEC babies will quit complaining about being the best conference to ever play football who deserves a NC every season.

[JohnD]

FWIW, Wake Forest was playing with a backup QB and got absolutely no help from bad refereeing against Nebraska. BC looked good.

[Birds of B'more]

FWIW, Wake Forest was playing with a backup QB and got absolutely no help from bad refereeing against Nebraska. BC looked good.

When a defending conference champ loses on its home field, that's a sign you're not good. But yes, Wake's backup QB was absolutely atrocious.

[Sports Guy]

The ACC will not be a top conference in this sport unless Miami and FSU are any kind of factors.

Teams like Clemson, BC and GT are usually pretty solid schools...Teams that are going to likely win 6-9 games, make a bowl and have the ability to beat the better teams.

MD, NC St and Virginia are usually teams that go up and down...Not a consistent winning team but can sometimes get you 8 or 9 wins...Usually competing for a bowl.

VaTech is a solid top 15-20 program year in and year out and sometimes they are much better than that.

Wake is getting better but have a bad history.

Duke and UNC are terrible usually with UNC occassionally being ok.

So, it goes back to FSU and Miami....If they are the top 5-10 programs they should be, the ACC is very good...If not, then the conference isn't all that good.

[geschinger]

The ACC will not be a top conference in this sport unless Miami and FSU are any kind of factors.

Teams like Clemson, BC and GT are usually pretty solid schools...Teams that are going to likely win 6-9 games, make a bowl and have the ability to beat the better teams.

MD, NC St and Virginia are usually teams that go up and down...Not a consistent winning team but can sometimes get you 8 or 9 wins...Usually competing for a bowl.

VaTech is a solid top 15-20 program year in and year out and sometimes they are much better than that.

Wake is getting better but have a bad history.

Duke and UNC are terrible usually with UNC occassionally being ok.

So, it goes back to FSU and Miami....If they are the top 5-10 programs they should be, the ACC is very good...If not, then the conference isn't all that good.

I'm not sure if FSU and Miami will ever get back to the point where both teams are consistenlty in the top 5-10. Neither program has a lock on the recruitment of the best talent in Florida like they've had in the past and having better horses than everyone else was a primary factor in their success.

[beaner]

The ACC will not be a top conference in this sport unless Miami and FSU are any kind of factors.

Teams like Clemson, BC and GT are usually pretty solid schools...Teams that are going to likely win 6-9 games, make a bowl and have the ability to beat the better teams.

MD, NC St and Virginia are usually teams that go up and down...Not a consistent winning team but can sometimes get you 8 or 9 wins...Usually competing for a bowl.

VaTech is a solid top 15-20 program year in and year out and sometimes they are much better than that.

Wake is getting better but have a bad history.

Duke and UNC are terrible usually with UNC occassionally being ok.So, it goes back to FSU and Miami....If they are the top 5-10 programs they should be, the ACC is very good...If not, then the conference isn't all that good.

Butch Davis will have Carolina competing for titles like Mack Brown did before you know it.

[Birds of B'more]

The BEast really benefited from getting rid of dead weight. The ACC should of taken Syracuse as well

I'm kidding of course, but it is amazing how poor the ACC has been since raiding the BEast and how well the BEast has done since then. 3 top 15 teams and an emerging USF program that just went into Jordan-Hare Stadium and took out Auburn. Immediately after the raid all the talk was about how the BEast didn't deserve an automatic BCS birth. It's ironic that it's the ACC that has needed to be bailed out by the automatic bid.

It is ironic, because right before the switch the same was being said about the Big East losing its autmatic bid. I think if it shows us anything it's that this whole automatic bid BS needs to go and every team should have a shot at a BCS bowl based strictly on merit. Wisconsin got screwed last year because of a rule saying no more than 2 teams from one conference can go when they were clearly superior to teams that did make it like Wake and ND. I love college football, but if the powers that be could get out of their own way, it could be even better.

[geschinger]

It is ironic, because right before the switch the same was being said about the Big East losing its autmatic bid. I think if it shows us anything it's that this whole automatic bid BS needs to go and every team should have a shot at a BCS bowl based strictly on merit. Wisconsin got screwed last year because of a rule saying no more than 2 teams from one conference can go when they were clearly superior to teams that did make it like Wake and ND. I love college football, but if the powers that be could get out of their own way, it could be even better.

If they really wanted to make college football better they'd get rid of the BCS and replace it with a playoff.

[Sports Guy]

Butch Davis will have Carolina competing for titles like Mack Brown did before you know it.

Certainly possible but until it happens, they aren't much help to the ACC.

Gesch...I think FSU and Miami can be elite again...Miami was elite recently after years of not being elite...They can get back.

Not sure if FSU can be elite as long as Bowden is there....May be time for him to retire and get newer, younger blood in there.

[Birds of B'more]

Certainly possible but until it happens, they aren't much help to the ACC.

Gesch...I think FSU and Miami can be elite again...Miami was elite recently after years of not being elite...They can get back.

Not sure if FSU can be elite as long as Bowden is there....May be time for him to retire and get newer, younger blood in there.

Both Miami and FSU will be back. There will always be enough talented players in Florida that want to stay close to home. Every elite program in college football has had its down periods. Look at USC.......it wasn't long ago that they were losing to the likes of Utah in bottom-tier bowl games. Miami and FSU are just going through slumps at the same time. They will both be back.

[geschinger]

Certainly possible but until it happens, they aren't much help to the ACC.

Gesch...I think FSU and Miami can be elite again...Miami was elite recently after years of not being elite...They can get back.

Not sure if FSU can be elite as long as Bowden is there....May be time for him to retire and get newer, younger blood in there.

I do to, but I think we're going to see them have success in waves... When they get back one will be a top ten caliber program and the other a top 25 caliber team. Neither school has a monoply on the talent in Florida anymore so I think the days of both of 'em consistently in the top 5/10 is over. Call me crazy, but I don't think we're too far off from the point where Florida has 4 outstanding programs. USF has a lot going for them and in some ways remind me of a Florida State right before they emerged as a national power.

I tend to agree w/you about Bowden. It's probably time for fresh blood. Just as long as they don't go looking for his replacement where they found Bowden.

[BaltimoreTerp]

If they really wanted to make college football better they'd get rid of the BCS and replace it with a playoff.

Ding ding ding...we have a winner.

[PeteCanes]

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