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    I'm sure it has already been said at least once in this thread, but this is 2000 all over again. Who will be this next year's Chris Smith? Mark my words, we are going to take 2 of 3 or even sweep the Yankees and once again lose out on a chance to take a switch hitting, gold glove 1Bman with great power from the southeast. Stupid, just stupid. This team sucks at everyone, winning, losing, everything. They can't even lose when they need to the most. ....., tell me what good a win at this stage of the game is going to do. TELL ME! All you guys who say we should never cheer for the Orioles to lose, tell me where that got us 7 years ago. In fact, tell me where it has gotten us each of the past 10 years. If you are going to suck like the Orioles do, at least get something out of it. Don't tell me there isn't much of a difference between drafting 2nd and drafting 6th, don't even tell me that. In a year where there are TWO college studs who will hit for power in the bigs at positions we could really use the help at, the Orioles go and basically blow their shot at a Top 2 pick. Unbelievable. When Justin Smoak and/or Pedro Alvarez are in the majors in 2009 and we are keeping the cellar warm because we don't have cleanup hitter, all the while watching Pitcher XYZ fiddling around with a bum shoulder in Frederick, come find me and tell me how happy you are with what's going to unfold this weekend and how much good it's going to do for the organization in the long run. Pointless Win, totally pointless win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rooter View Post
    And you brought a completely unnecessary comment into this thread for the sake of trolling.

    I'm glad to hear you are willing to sacrifice the integrity of the game for the chance to draft a guy who may never even turn into a major leaguer though. Says a lot about your character.
    We'll see where this team is five years from now. Last place, would be my guess.

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    BTW, how did Moore look at first today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriolesBaseball View Post
    I'm sure it has already been said at least once in this thread, but this is 2000 all over again. Who will be this next year's Chris Smith? Mark my words, we are going to take 2 of 3 or even sweep the Yankees and once again lose out on a chance to take a switch hitting, gold glove 1Bman with great power from the southeast. Stupid, just stupid. This team sucks at everyone, winning, losing, everything. They can't even lose when they need to the most. All you positive pansies out there, tell me what good a win at this stage of the game is going to do. TELL ME! All you guys who say we should never cheer for the Orioles to lose, tell me where that got us 7 years ago. In fact, tell me where it has gotten us each of the past 10 years. If you are going to suck like the Orioles do, at least get something out of it. Don't tell me there isn't much of a difference between drafting 2nd and drafting 6th, don't even tell me that. In a year where there are TWO college studs who will hit for power in the bigs at positions we could really use the help at, the Orioles go and basically blow their shot at a Top 2 pick. Unbelievable. When Justin Smoak and/or Pedro Alvarez are in the majors in 2009 and we are keeping the cellar warm because we don't have cleanup hitter, all the while watching Pitcher XYZ fiddling around with a bum shoulder in Frederick, come find me and tell me how happy you are with what's going to unfold this weekend and how much good it's going to do for the organization in the long run. Pointless Win, totally pointless win.
    If you knew anything about baseball and its draft, you would be well aware that it is downright silly to *count* on a couple draft positions making some kind of big meaningful difference. Who are today's future HOFers? And where were they taken in the draft? How many top-5 picks turned out to be absolute nobodies? Before you dig yourself a deeper hole, maybe you should go look. You can go here and see for yourself: http://www.thebaseballcube.com/draft/index.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriolesBaseball View Post
    All you positive pansies out there, tell me what good a win at this stage of the game is going to do. TELL ME!...Pointless Win, totally pointless win.
    Integrity. Dignity. Self-respect. Professionalism. Pride.

    Making every minute of your life count for the right reasons.

    Feel free to use a dictionary. You don't seem to understand any of that otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vatech1994 View Post
    I like what I see right now, but we need to understand the caliber of career that Huff has had. The chance that Scott Moore has a career that meets or exceeds Aubrey Huff is probably fairly low. However, even if Moore tears his knee apart tomorrow and never plays again, it is quite clear that we have made a very good trade with the Cubs (sort of like Ponson for Moss, Ainsworth, and Hannaman but I hope the final result turns out better for us).
    Moore is a better defender than Huff ever was, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomkingsize View Post
    When Pedro Alvarez is the Grand Prize, you bet I am.....

    This guy will put up Pujols/Manny numbers on a consistent basis.
    I'd just like to point out Manny was drafted 13th in the 1991 draft and Pujols was drafted 18th in the 13th round of the 1999 draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy View Post
    BTW, how did Moore look at first today?
    He looked like a first baseman. Watching him play, I thought to myself that he could handle it.

    He handled some hard shots and off-line throws pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaner View Post
    I don't get the Yankee hatred either. Their players are far classier than the Red Sox guys. Jeter and A Rod both worship Cal Ripken also. I don't think it's Jeffrey Maier really, I just think it's easier to hate the team that's usually on top. Also, Steinbrenner, he's easy to hate.
    Yankee hatred has been going on in Baltimore before Jeter, ARod, Cal, and Maier were born, and for a cornucopia of reasons.

    For a guy whose sig talks about hating Duke before it was cool to hate Duke, that should be easy to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaimoku View Post
    For a guy whose sig talks about hating Duke before it was cool to hate Duke, that should be easy to understand.
    Possibly the best point you've ever made on this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolliefingers View Post
    Moore is a better defender than Huff ever was, that's for sure.
    no doubt, he has quick feet, good hands, and an absolute hose

    to answer SG, he struggled a bit but made all the plays, but he can back up first base right now with no defensive issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by longflyball View Post
    Are there people on this board who actually believe the Orioles should tank games that have playoff implications? Or any games, for that matter?
    Not only that, but they think they're smarter and more farsighted than anyone else, and that people who disagree with them are clueless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vatech1994 View Post
    My tune won't change regardless of what happens later. I enjoyed a fun game tonight. No more, no less. The draft will end up being what it will end up being. Trying to "time" the draft is like trying to time the lottery or stock market. It is a silly, pointless exercise. Alvarez could go 1st, 2nd, 5th, 10th, or in the third round (if he were to get injured or something). The top pick could become a hall of famer or get injured and never see a day in the majors.

    By the way, you have completely missed the point of my post. No matter how you feel about our draft position and whether the team should try to lose or not, that wasn't point of this thread. It has been the point of many, many other threads over the past month. The point of this thread was for the people who wanted to celebrate tonight's victory as a standalone event. Nobody even mentioned it in the context of the bigger issue until people like you brought it into the thread. Your goal was to ruin the brief happiness that some people were feeling with your agenda. That is your right, but it is akin to walking up to a group of people who appear to be having fun while playing a game of risk and kicking the board across the floor because your girlfriend broke up with you. If you're not happy, nobody should be happy.

    Have a nice evening
    Actually i'm a very happy person, just perplexed as to how this team stink it up the entire season when it counts. And now after a long grueling, uninspired season, decides to play inspired baseball when teams are preparing for the post season. Spoiling the chance to draft high to maybe secure the future of the franchise. Now if you are one who take joy from beating the Yanks no matter the situation, then so be it. But after 10 str8 losing seasons, i choose to look at the larger picture and take no immediate pleasure beating the Yanks in a meaningless gm when i know we don't have the talent in the minors nor majors to compete at the highest level in the AL East. And i'm not even going to get into our track record during the off season; which further urges me to root for high draft picks.

    I know the draft doesn't insure us anything, but it can provide some with hope where it has been lost.

    I sincerely apologize to those who maybe label me as an kill joy and one who has hijacked otherwise a happy thread. But i stand by my comments.

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    Gotta love when the Orioles win and the fake fans act as though it is a bad thing.

    Great win!

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    I'm very proud of the guys for battling back and pulling off the win tonight. After beating up on the Yankees all season, it felt great to see them win tonight so they could at the very least tie the Yanks for the season series between the two teams. I wonder what would happen to this board if the O's win another game in this series this weekend, LOL

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