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    Heroes creator apologizes to fans...

    For this lame season so far. Looks like Kring has admitted some bad judgement and the show can get back to what it was last year. We basically fast forward half the show now..He promises things are about to pick up. "Sophomore Slumps" are common, but hopefully last week's was the beginning of a turnaround.


    http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,00.html


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    Heres an interesting quote from Damon Lindelof on Heroes and network TV shows in general:

    We learned last year that the show moves at a certain pace, and you can't build up critical momentum in the first six episodes. In fact, when you are doing 24 straight episodes of a show, the first six episodes are a lot of tap dancing and some writers are able to tap-dance very effectively. Cable writers don't have to tap-dance at all, which is why all their shows are so great.

    Interesting.
    Yeah, and I think that's something Heroes is getting unnecessary guff for right now, too. They're getting a lot of heat because the story can't really start until episode seven or eight. And I remember all this bad-mouthing going on about our show last year, and I talked to Tim [Kring]. I said, "This all feels so familiar to me—don't worry, it only takes one good episode to round the corner and then everybody is back on board again."
    Basically saying that because they're pretty much forced to air 24 episodes, it waters down the experience. I still don't see how you can't adjust for that and just add some more cool stuff in... Interesting regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaner View Post
    For this lame season so far. Looks like Kring has admitted some bad judgement and the show can get back to what it was last year. We basically fast forward half the show now..He promises things are about to pick up. "Sophomore Slumps" are common, but hopefully last week's was the beginning of a turnaround.
    People keep overlooking the fact that this is EXACTLY what the show was last year. The first 5-6 episodes of season 1 were slow-moving, had relatively little action, and were basically used to introduce characters and establish storylines. That's exactly what the first 5-6 episodes of this season did as well.

    It wasn't until about episodes 7-8 last year that the story really took off-- and it looks like this season is following the same pattern, if last week's excellent episode was any indication.

    Now, I understand the criticism. I too was hoping that season 2 would continue the momentum from the awesome second half of season 1 instead of essentially "starting over." But a lot of people who say that season 2 doesn't match up to season 1 are forgetting that season 1 took a long time to get going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulFolk View Post
    People keep overlooking the fact that this is EXACTLY what the show was last year. The first 5-6 episodes of season 1 were slow-moving, had relatively little action, and were basically used to introduce characters and establish storylines. That's exactly what the first 5-6 episodes of this season did as well.

    It wasn't until about episodes 7-8 last year that the story really took off-- and it looks like this season is following the same pattern, if last week's excellent episode was any indication.

    Now, I understand the criticism. I too was hoping that season 2 would continue the momentum from the awesome second half of season 1 instead of essentially "starting over." But a lot of people who say that season 2 doesn't match up to season 1 are forgetting that season 1 took a long time to get going.
    thats not exactly true. The development was slow last year, but we found out the "save the cheerleader save the world" part much earlier than we were shown the devasatation from the virus in Season 2. There was a purpose to season 1 pretty much from the get-go, even if there wasn't a lot of action. Season 2 has been pretty unfocused, until the aftermath of the virus was revealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulFolk View Post
    People keep overlooking the fact that this is EXACTLY what the show was last year. The first 5-6 episodes of season 1 were slow-moving, had relatively little action, and were basically used to introduce characters and establish storylines. That's exactly what the first 5-6 episodes of this season did as well.

    It wasn't until about episodes 7-8 last year that the story really took off-- and it looks like this season is following the same pattern, if last week's excellent episode was any indication.

    Now, I understand the criticism. I too was hoping that season 2 would continue the momentum from the awesome second half of season 1 instead of essentially "starting over." But a lot of people who say that season 2 doesn't match up to season 1 are forgetting that season 1 took a long time to get going.
    I guess I just don't remember to be honest. I do remember being interested though right from the first episode last year. This year, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackus View Post
    thats not exactly true. The development was slow last year, but we found out the "save the cheerleader save the world" part much earlier than we were shown the devasatation from the virus in Season 2. There was a purpose to season 1 pretty much from the get-go, even if there wasn't a lot of action. Season 2 has been pretty unfocused, until the aftermath of the virus was revealed.
    That's not quite accurate. The "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World" comment didn't occur until episode 4 or 5, and the actual saving of the cheerleader (the "Homecoming" episode) wasn't until episode 9. Basically the first handful of episodes in season 1 were just about the characters discovering their powers and being involved in some less-important storylines (like Hiro and Ando gambling in Vegas).

    At least in season 2, there was a new crisis introduced immediately in episode 1, with the Elder Heroes starting to get killed off. The problem was that they haven't progressed very quickly with that plotline. Now they seem to have put in on the backburner and introduced the new crisis with the virus.

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