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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy View Post
    There are also scouts that have said he is overrated defensively and takes inconsistent routes on balls.
    If he's simply "overrated defensively" that would make him Torii Hunter.

    Side note, do you like a single player on the Cubs? I haven't seen you be positive about a single one.

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    I'm not over valueing our prospects. The fact is we are not giving you are most prized prospect and our best pitchign prospect for Brian Roberts. It just isnt happening lol. I can see Hill and Pie with a lot more for Bedard and Roberts. But Marmol and Pie and more for bedard and roberts wouldnt happen. Marmol's value is ridiculously high right now, almost as much as bedard's. He is one of the best RPs in baseball. Bedard is worth A LOT more than Roberts. You guys will get something like Gallagher, Marshall, Cedeno, and Murton for Roberts and Payton. The reason that this didn't happen yet is because you wanted to see what you'd get from the Mariners for Bedard. Now that you have Jones you wont demand Pie. And say you only get 1 SP back from them, then you guys would want 2 from us, etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose Milligan View Post
    Wonder how many times a day Roch checks our board...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob H View Post
    If he's simply "overrated defensively" that would make him Torii Hunter.

    Side note, do you like a single player on the Cubs? I haven't seen you be positive about a single one.
    SG has been positive about Pie.

    It's cool though, he balances out davearm, our resident Chubbies fan who isn't positive about any of our players, either.

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    I personally really like Kyler Burke, but he would have to be the 3rd or 4th piece in a deal for roberts, and not sure it would go to 4 players without us tossing in a player, but i think he is an awesome, young, under rated player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcard View Post
    I wonder if Bavasi caved an gave up Morrow?
    Wasn't Morrow interviewed at the M's Fanfest this afternoon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob H View Post
    If he's simply "overrated defensively" that would make him Torii Hunter.

    Side note, do you like a single player on the Cubs? I haven't seen you be positive about a single one.
    To be fair, you stated that someone said he "was the best ever in CF". You can't throw quotes like that around without a decent source. SportsGuy is basically quoting out of the Baseball America 2007 handbook. I've read that both guys are excellent CF's. You assumed that Pie is the better CF. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeuceBaseman View Post
    I'm not over valueing our prospects. The fact is we are not giving you are most prized prospect and our best pitchign prospect for Brian Roberts. It just isnt happening lol. I can see Hill and Pie with a lot more for Bedard and Roberts. But Marmol and Pie and more for bedard and roberts wouldnt happen. Marmol's value is ridiculously high right now, almost as much as bedard's. He is one of the best RPs in baseball. Bedard is worth A LOT more than Roberts. You guys will get something like Gallagher, Marshall, Cedeno, and Murton for Roberts and Payton. The reason that this didn't happen yet is because you wanted to see what you'd get from the Mariners for Bedard. Now that you have Jones you wont demand Pie. And say you only get 1 SP back from them, then you guys would want 2 from us, etc....
    There is NO way that Marmol is as valuable as Bedard. He's not even as valuable as Roberts. Doesn't mean hes not a great player though.

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    SG has been positive about Pie.

    It's cool though, he balances out davearm, our resident Chubbies fan who isn't positive about any of our players, either.
    Has Davearm ever said anything positive about any O's players or anything to do with the O's?

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    So anyways, back on topic....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeuceBaseman View Post
    I'm not over valueing our prospects. The fact is we are not giving you are most prized prospect and our best pitchign prospect for Brian Roberts. It just isnt happening lol. I can see Hill and Pie with a lot more for Bedard and Roberts. But Marmol and Pie and more for bedard and roberts wouldnt happen. Marmol's value is ridiculously high right now, almost as much as bedard's. He is one of the best RPs in baseball. Bedard is worth A LOT more than Roberts. You guys will get something like Gallagher, Marshall, Cedeno, and Murton for Roberts and Payton. The reason that this didn't happen yet is because you wanted to see what you'd get from the Mariners for Bedard. Now that you have Jones you wont demand Pie. And say you only get 1 SP back from them, then you guys would want 2 from us, etc....
    That is exactly what you are doing my friend. Marmol is completely unproven and you guys won't even name him your closer now, so how is he one of the best in the league? No one said Pie and Marmol anyway, I even think thats too much for Roberts, but I do think Pie and Gallagher is possible. Gallagher is more expendable to you than Marmol. Even though, Wood will end up as your closer and Marmol will be the set-up man, which diminishes his value.

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    I'd like to see Roberts for Gallagher, Patterson, and Murton.

    2B Eric Patterson
    SS Jack Wilson
    RF Nick Markakis
    DH Kevin Millar
    1B Jeff Clement
    CF Adam Jones
    C Ramon Hernandez
    LF Luke Scott
    3B Scott Moore

    ??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeuceBaseman View Post
    I'm not over valueing our prospects. The fact is we are not giving you are most prized prospect and our best pitchign prospect for Brian Roberts. It just isnt happening lol. I can see Hill and Pie with a lot more for Bedard and Roberts. But Marmol and Pie and more for bedard and roberts wouldnt happen. Marmol's value is ridiculously high right now, almost as much as bedard's. He is one of the best RPs in baseball. Bedard is worth A LOT more than Roberts. You guys will get something like Gallagher, Marshall, Cedeno, and Murton for Roberts and Payton. The reason that this didn't happen yet is because you wanted to see what you'd get from the Mariners for Bedard. Now that you have Jones you wont demand Pie. And say you only get 1 SP back from them, then you guys would want 2 from us, etc....

    You forgot the "lol" after this statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeuceBaseman View Post
    Marmol's value is ridiculously high right now, almost as much as bedard's.
    Now, that is funny stuff right there. Kudos

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