Report: Angelos nixed Deal

[SoBo]

We are the laughing stock of the MLB

Amazing to grow up rooting for the organization that all others wanted to be. Now we're quite possibly the most embarrassing franchise in all of sports. Outside of maybe the Redskins. Good Lord, how is it possible that the two worst owners in sports are exactly 45 miles apart?

Anyone want to guess the attendance figures for the 1st O's v Royals Tuesday night tilt? Will there be 1,000 fanatics in the stands?

[JohnnyK27]

I haven't heard the Mariners or Bavasi bad mouthing Angelos or the Orioles at this point. So this may prove to be a small glimmer of hope! Very Small!

[allstar1579]

To the pitchforks!!!!

Man the torches!!!

We are hunting baseball tyrants!

[Pickles]

I just don't understand it. Time and time again, people have jumped to false conclusions based on what the insiders have said. Then they look like fools, but apparently not enough to keep them from doing it some more.

Bottom line is, no one knows what the heck is going on. I'm not at all suprised Peace's source heard Angelos nixed the deal, because THAT IS WHAT EVERYONE ASSUMES!! Sorry, but I seriously doubt that Peace's source heard first hand that a deal was in place and everything was ready to go, but PA nixed it.
Maybe PA really did nix it, it wouldn't surprise me at all. But it's not a fact that he did it.

No offense meant to our insiders, BTW. I love the info you all provide.

If his source is Bedard's agent, as he says, then there is NO WAY IN HELL he would have heard this first hand from the O's.

[bigbird]

Didn't you say last night the deal was final? That would imply to me that it wasn't waiting on Angelos' approval. Of course now you say it was final until he nixed it but if you have so little faith in him I wonder why you would think anything was final until it got past him.

It was 100% agreed upon. There were flights booked, rids waiting and physicals scheduled. PGA must have gotten this morning and blew a gasket.

You tell me what the response would have been if I posted the deal was done pending PGAs approval? I would have gotten slammed so hard about AM being 100% in charge it wouldn't be crazy.

[hburg to bmore]

good point he prolly wouldnt care. but it would still be a nice scene to see an empty camden yards on opening day

[davearm]

So are you calling AM a liar?

Of course GMs lie to the media.

Do you think Bavasi was telling the truth when he said that Jones was pulled from his winter league team in the middle of the playoffs because he'd "achieved his goals" or whatever BS he threw out there?

I trust you're not that naive. Because that was a lie right there.

[JCK]

That said, if this all turns out to be true, I will happily join some sort of walk-out on opening day. Can you imagine the press THAT would garner? The last one was on ESPN, and it was a meaningless game 2/3 the way through the season. This would make some waves.

[Peace21]

If his source is Bedard's agent, as he says, then there is NO WAY IN HELL he would have heard this first hand from the O's.

I have been saying this since this rumored deal started, I havent heard anything from my guy about this deal. Not until tonight. And I was told the deal was nixed.

[TheBee]

Peace, as always thanks for the information. I actually had hope we were headed in a clear and intelligent direction. I thought our farm system could move with this series of proposed trades (Bedard, BRob,Payton, Millar) from middle of the pack (16) to top ten. I was looking forward to a young and exciting team. I had hope we had a GM who could build on the Tejada trade. It now appears that nothing has changed. With this owner, we are doomed to be a directionless laughingstock. I hope I'm wrong. I hope these trades still goes down somehow, but it certainly looks like the sos.

[twoBshorty]

If true, this is literally the worst possible way this could have gone down. The trade was put together and then the Orioles yanked the rug out from under it. It means our word is worth nothing and nobody will ever want to deal with us again because they'll think they're just wasting their time. And they are. If Angelos changes his mind and MacPhail goes back to the Mariners, I wouldn't blame Bavasi one bit if he told us to go pound sand. Wasted time and credibility when he could have been doing something else.

Pathetic. This team is so myopic. They think they can just mosey along at their own little pace, oblivious to the 29 other teams out there. And now Angelos may have taken away MacPhail's credibility as well. Does he have ANY CLUE?

[waroriole]

Thanks Peace for this very important update. I believe you 100%.

Thanks to Tony and the OH Staff for making this such a great website.

Thanks to all of the insiders who go out on a limb and post such sensitive information.

And thank you to all members of this great community. You have impressed me with your baseball knowledge and seem like a fantastic group of people. My short experience on this site has been a pleasant, fun, and educational experience.

Unfortunately I'm going to make this my final post.

I am now finished with the Orioles. Angelos has failed me for the last time with this interference. This was a litmus test and Angelos just failed it miserably. As a fan all of my hopes and dreams have just been extinguished by Angelos. I can not argue that it is Angelos' right as owner to make a decision like this. But it is entirely my right as a customer to withhold business from his ownership group and family permanently.

I will never again purchase any Oriole tickets or merchandise while the Angelos family owns the team. Where I go from here as a baseball fan, I just don't know. For the sake of all Oriole fans, the local economy, businesses, and vendors alone I hope the Orioles succeed but it is highly unlikely under the current ownership group.

Last but not least I wish all of you nothing but the best.

Take Care,
OBP

Dude, I understand the disappointment and anger (if this is even true), but DRAMA QUEEN

[TyCobb]

Of course GMs lie to the media.

Do you think Bavasi was telling the truth when he said that Jones was pulled from his winter league team in the middle of the playoffs because he'd "achieved his goals" or whatever BS he threw out there?

I trust you're not that naive. Because that was a lie right there.

I am talking about AM quote in his press conference. He said that he won't have taken the team if he wasn't giving 100% control of baseball operations.

[SevisonJN]

Settle down. There is no reason to make a post like this. It accomplishes nothing.

We don't even have the whole story of what is happening. Just speculation. Our insiders are contradicting themselves so how can you know what to believe?

IT is crazy as hell right now because everyone has new information like every 10 minutes. But nothing adds up.

We were told earlier today that PGA was unavailable to do anything and now all of the sudden he has both agreed to and then nix the trade on the same day he was "unavailable." And every time something happens, there are people that bite on it.

Angelos can give a verbal Ok. It also takes 10 minutes to sign paperwork. Most GM's get envolved in the teams payroll goes up in a deal, but ours is going down. I believe McPhail had trades arranged for both Bedard and Roberts; PA though otherwise. "I allowmy baseball men to make baseball decisions"..... before I disagree with the packages and pull the deals! PA didn't think that Derek Lee deserved $8 Million a year, but somehow Konerko deserved double. Do you notice how we always almost sign a guy. We were players for Carlos Lee, Derek Lee, Paul Konerko, Vladamir Guerrero, Pudge, etc. Goodcallon giving Javy Lopez $8 million per year instead a gaudy $10 million per year to Pudge. PA has meddled and he is the reason why our team stinks. Frank Wren was such a bad baseball man that he left us and went to Atlanta, Pat Gillick went to the Phillies, Steve Phillips was with the Mets, McPhail with Chicago,etc. We have had good guys who were all handcuffed (and not in a good way).

[Believer]

Is there any possibility that it was nixed as it was so the O's could sweeten the deal with a sign and trade - as was speculated in another thread tonight?