Mad Men

[Nigel Tufnel]

I've been meaning to post this for a while. Grantland recently interviewed Matthew Weiner, and one of the things he said was that the show might end in the present day.

Bonus: How Mad Men Will End
When asked if he had an end point in mind for Mad Men's seventh and final season, Weiner answered in the affirmative: "I do know how the whole show ends," he told us. "It came to me in the middle of last season. I always felt like it would be the experience of human life. And human life has a destination. It doesn't mean Don's gonna die. What I'm looking for, and how I hope to end the show, is like ? It's 2011. Don Draper would be 84 right now. I want to leave the show in a place where you have an idea of what it meant and how it's related to you. It's a very tall order, but I always talk about Abbey Road. What's the song at the end of Abbey Road? It's called 'The End.' There is a culmination of an experience of people working at their highest level. And all I want to do is not wear out the welcome. I was 35 when I wrote the Mad Men pilot, 42 when I got to make it, and I'll be 50 when it goes off the air. So that's what you're gonna get. Do I know everything that's gonna happen? No, I don't. But I just want it to be entertaining, and I want people to remember it fondly and not think it ended in a fart."

[Great8]

I've been meaning to post this for a while. Grantland recently interviewed Matthew Weiner, and one of the things he said was that the show might end in the present day.

I read the same interview and didn't come away with the impression that this is how he intends to end the show. For one thing, it doesn't seem likely that someone who drinks and smokes as much as Don Draper would live to be 84! Either that, or some wronged woman will murder him, lol. For another, Weiner has never been one to reveal anything about the show, especially something as crucial as how it will end. I think he was being metaphorical - what would Draper's world look like in modern day? I don't think it necessarily means that Draper would be around to experience it.

Also, "Grantland" didn't interview him; that was excerpted from an interview Weiner did for an intallment of "A Conversation with Jeff Garlin", whatever that is!

[Great8]

Who else is completely stoked for the start of Season 5 tonight? I have my martini ingredients ready. Two full hours! Can't wait.

[Icterus galbula]

Who else is completely stoked for the start of Season 5 tonight? I have my martini ingredients ready. Two full hours! Can't wait.

Count me as completely stoked. Just red wine for me, but I am eager to see how Dons new marriage goes, whether Peggy's ascension continues, and if they make amends with Bert Cooper. Love his crazy self. Also ready for lots of Joan.

Quick Rolling Stone season 4 recap to get primed: http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/n...recap-20120323

[NewMarketSean]

Good to have MM back. Good to have Hendricks back (in my life).

The dynamic involving Don and Megan working in the same office is going to get interesting.

[Gurgi]

“Stop looking at me, you’re not allowed to look at me.”

"YOU DON’T DESERVE THIS!"

Most interesting part of the show.

[Great8]

I am definitely intrigued! Lots of unresolved issues are out there, like does Roger know he's Joan's baby's father? Will Dr. Miller spill
Don's secret? Even though Megan apparently knows, it's still something he doesn't want out there. What's up with Betty? Will the generational differences between Don and Megan be too much to bear? And why is Bert back at work?

Can't wait to see if any light is shed on any of it!

[Gurgi]

Oh my god! What the crap?

They took it to eleven!

[Great8]

Um yeah. So much great stuff happened in this episode, I don't even know where to start! Drunk Peggy basically blackmailing Roger into giving her $400 may have just become my most favorite scene of all time. She's the best. When will Roger learn to stop carrying so much damn cash around? By my count, he's now out $1500 so far this season, and both times it was to circumvent Pete in some way.

Poor Don can't even dream that he's a good person; I think it's safe to assume that, aside from the interaction in the elevator, he hallucinated the entire episode with Andrea, right down to the moment he choked her to death and kicked her under the bed. It seems his subconscious is trying to kill his urge to philander, but kicking a dead body under the bed is only going to lead to a horrible smell. In other words, that demon isn't going anywhere. What a powerful sequence that was.

And how about Sally? Not only does it appear she has the makings of an eating disorder (thanks, Betty!), it looks like she may have just been led down the path to drug abuse by creepy Grandma Pauline. WTF? Giving a kid a Secanol? Even half of one? I've read that this is the drug that killed Judy Garland and Jimi Hendrix, among others. Good grief.

Did anyone else give a little cheer when Joan got rid of Greg? What a slime ball that guy is. He's total weasel - rapist, liar, insert adjective here. She and Kevin will be better off without him. I wonder if Roger will ever figure out that the kid is his son.

Great season so far!

[Icterus galbula]

Stay away from those seconals, Sally! Thats going to become a plot arc, I can feel it. Pauline sucks.

Glad to see Joan finally ditch rapey-dumbfingers.

In the back of my mind I thought the sickly Don scenes could be nightmares, but when he started choking the girl I was still shocked.

[Icterus galbula]

Just read Alan Sepinwall's recap and there is a link to this:




Also, I kinda like the Ginsberg character. Socially oblivious, but smart. Full of himself at work, yet last week we were shown thats not the case at home.

[CrimsonTribe]

Um yeah. So much great stuff happened in this episode, I don't even know where to start! Drunk Peggy basically blackmailing Roger into giving her $400 may have just become my most favorite scene of all time. She's the best. When will Roger learn to stop carrying so much damn cash around? By my count, he's now out $1500 so far this season, and both times it was to circumvent Pete in some way.

Poor Don can't even dream that he's a good person; I think it's safe to assume that, aside from the interaction in the elevator, he hallucinated the entire episode with Andrea, right down to the moment he choked her to death and kicked her under the bed. It seems his subconscious is trying to kill his urge to philander, but kicking a dead body under the bed is only going to lead to a horrible smell. In other words, that demon isn't going anywhere. What a powerful sequence that was.

And how about Sally? Not only does it appear she has the makings of an eating disorder (thanks, Betty!), it looks like she may have just been led down the path to drug abuse by creepy Grandma Pauline. WTF? Giving a kid a Secanol? Even half of one? I've read that this is the drug that killed Judy Garland and Jimi Hendrix, among others. Good grief.

Did anyone else give a little cheer when Joan got rid of Greg? What a slime ball that guy is. He's total weasel - rapist, liar, insert adjective here. She and Kevin will be better off without him. I wonder if Roger will ever figure out that the kid is his son.

Great season so far!

Didn't Joan basically tell Roger that the baby was his last year?

[Great8]

Didn't Joan basically tell Roger that the baby was his last year?

Yes, but she also told him she got an abortion. What he actually believes at this point, we don't know. I mean, I assume he has to know it's his, but it was hard to tell from their brief interaction in the first episode.

[Great8]

Just read Alan Sepinwall's recap and there is a link to this:




Also, I kinda like the Ginsberg character. Socially oblivious, but smart. Full of himself at work, yet last week we were shown thats not the case at home.

I love Sepinwall, I saw that earlier! Hilarious. Did you see the other gifs on that site, including Peggy dancing?

Yeah, Ginsberg is interesting. I can't wait until they flesh out his character.

[bobmc]

Anyone psyched for season 2? I just finished season 1 on demand and loved it. Absolutlely loved the characters.

It's amazing how much things have changed from the late 50's and early 60's. That time in American history is so often rememberd as idyllic, but the cultural standards of the time really did seem take a heavy emotional toll on people, particularly women.

I am! Just a newb here like so many before me were at one time - one more episode to Season 1 on Netflix - so lots to do when I - er - we have time to screw off - oh wait we're retired....

Love all of your takes on characters, some of whom I haven't seen yet, but Great8 rocks her reviews. First question, do they go into any detail on how the dead Lt. Draper's fam found out about his death? I just saw the scenes when Don copped his identity.

I lived in the sixties and remember all the knotty pine (had a kitchen like that done by my parents), smoking, scotch drinking, greased-back hair (I actually used some when I had some), pinafored dresses, etc., etc. The scene with the little boy and Betty was a classic MILF (well not exactly F for the kid) fantasy and her followup (cutting a lock) was also classic.

Keep up the good work here guys, you too Ty!