Your official 2008 top 30 Prospect list

[coe76]

I don't think these two guys are in the top 30/50 but does anyone have a sense of what the organization feels about Kraig Binick and Brian Valichka? They seemed to show some flashes last year but I am not sure they are consistent enough. I also wonder about Jedidiah Stephen, who showed a bit of pop with 8 HRs. Kenny Moreland is another who showed well but I think it is probably too early for him to make these lists.

[Sports Guy]

1) Wieters
2) Matusz
3) Tillman
4) Arrieta
5) Reimold
6) Erbe
7) Rowell
8) Britton
9) Synder
10) Bergesen
11) Hernandez
12) Spoone
13) Patton
14) Berken
15) Bundy
16) Butler
17) Hoes
18) Avery
19) Adams
20) Zagone
21) Henson
22) Noel
23) Bascom
24) Beato
25) Moore
26) Constanzo
27) Miclat
28) Hoey
29) Kolodny
30) Rosa


I think 2-4 can be put in any order....I go with Matusz #2 because of his reported good command of all of his pitches...But he hasn't shown it yet, so I have no problem putting Tillman and/or Arrieta ahead of him.

Some of the guys on here I can see Tony putting on that other list he does...The guys that you have to watch but those who didn't get enough time in the minors.

Also, i am not considering Montanez a prospect anymore, so that is why he isn't on my list...If he was, he would be in the 15-20 range.

[GeorgeD]

Nice posts guys. I am enjoying reading them. I don't know enough about these guys to make a Top 30, but I think I would include Oliver Drake somewhere between 25-30. I also don't think I'd have Rowell in the Top 10. Easy for me to say I guess since I didn't actually make a list.

[Greg Pappas]

He'll be 27 in April 09

Just caught that, thanks...

[Greg Pappas]

That's very sweet of you.

Hehehe thanks. I felt that he needed to be remembered.

[WietersCorner]

1. Wieters
2. Tillman
3. Matusz
4. Arrieta
5. Erbe
6. Rowell
7. Reimold
8. Britton
9. Snyder
10. Hernandez
11. Bergeson
12. Patton
13. Adams
14. Butler
15. Hoes
16. Kolodny
17. Bundy
18. Avery
19. Rosa
20. Henson
21. Miclat
22. Noel
23. Polanco
24. Beato
25. Noel
26. Mickolio
27. J. Moore
28. Zagone
29. Hoey
30. Mahoney

[baseballbarry]

Amazing top 30 Prospects!

Matt Angle-back to back strong seasons; should have broke the top 30.

Tyler Kolodny-only 20 Years Old breaking Ironbird Home Run record + high OPS in strong pitchers league. I like him above Henson at third base.

Justin Moore-he's my dark horse to shoot up the prospect list next season! For a 20 Year Old to dominate the Gulf Coast League is an eye opener. Justin was great pick by Joe Jordan and would have had more wins with a better team and more run support. I'd like to see him have shot in spring training for the 4th or 5th spot in Delmarve's rotation.

[Frobby]

Justin Moore-he's my dark horse to shoot up the prospect list next season! For a 20 Year Old to dominate the Gulf Coast League is an eye opener.

18-year old, you mean. But isn't that mostly what you have in the GCL?

[Tony-OH]

1) Wieters
2) Matusz
3) Tillman
4) Arrieta
5) Reimold
6) Erbe
7) Rowell
8) Britton
9) Synder
10) Bergesen
11) Hernandez
12) Spoone
13) Patton
14) Berken
15) Bundy
16) Butler
17) Hoes
18) Avery
19) Adams
20) Zagone
21) Henson
22) Noel
23) Bascom
24) Beato
25) Moore
26) Constanzo
27) Miclat
28) Hoey
29) Kolodny
30) Rosa


I think 2-4 can be put in any order....I go with Matusz #2 because of his reported good command of all of his pitches...But he hasn't shown it yet, so I have no problem putting Tillman and/or Arrieta ahead of him.

Some of the guys on here I can see Tony putting on that other list he does...The guys that you have to watch but those who didn't get enough time in the minors.

Also, i am not considering Montanez a prospect anymore, so that is why he isn't on my list...If he was, he would be in the 15-20 range.

This year we're going to go 1-50 with some of those kind of guys showing up in the 31-50 range.

Good list though.....

[LookinUp]

My list, FWIW. W/o the injuries, Patton and Spoone could likely be in the top 5 or 6. I'm just too worried about them though.

1. Weiters
2. Matusz
3. Tillman
4. Arietta
5. Snyder
6. Erbe
7. Montanez
8. Reimold
9. Hernandez
10. Rowell
11. Britton
12. Bergesen
13. Hoes
14. Patton
15. Spoone
16. Bundy
17. Miclat
18. Adams
19. Butler
20. Zagone
21. Rosa
22. Kolodny
23. Polanco
24. Henson
25. Avery
26. Berken
27. Noel
28. Bascom
29. Davis
30. Angle

Not listed: McCrory, Doyne, Mickolio, Hoey, Beato, Loewen, S. Moore, Costanzo, Drake, Crancer, J. Moore, Mahoney, Mattalino, and likely others.

[hoosiers]

I know he was injured, but Hudson was drafted ahead of Miclat, Zagone and Joseph on merit. He's really getting disrespected relative to these and other 08 draft picks, IMO.

[LookinUp]

I know he was injured, but Hudson was drafted ahead of Miclat, Zagone and Joseph on merit. He's really getting disrespected relative to these and other 08 draft picks, IMO.

You're probably right, but he's not on our radar unfortunately. Hopefully Tony's not prone to such oversights.

[Three Run Homer]

I know he was injured, but Hudson was drafted ahead of Miclat, Zagone and Joseph on merit. He's really getting disrespected relative to these and other 08 draft picks, IMO.

A lot of us folks disrespected him on draft day, too...

[Three Run Homer]

1. Wieters
2. Matusz
3. Tillman
4. Arietta

5. Erbe
6. Hernandez
7. Hoes
8. Reimold
9. Britton
10. Rowell

11. Snyder
12. Bergesen
13. Patton
14. Spoone
15. Kolodny
16. Miclat
17. Bundy
18. Butler
19. Avery
20. Adams

21. Rosa
22. Montanez
23. Berken
24. Zagone
25. Mickolio
26. Hoey
27. Wilfredo Perez
28. Noel
29. Angle
30. Oh, all right...Hudson

I'm sure I've ranked Hoes higher than anyone else, but I do think the O's have a gem here. He walks about twice as often as he strikes out, and he was 10-for-10 as a base stealer. To me those are indications that he is off the charts in terms of baseball intelligence--I've never seen an O's prospect with those kind of numbers, even in the GCL. Plus he hit .300 with some pop, so he's got plenty of tools. Defense is the only question mark, but he might hit enough to make it on his bat alone.

I admit that I don't have much of a feel for rankings beyond the top 20. I could rearrange 21-30 in pretty much any order and still be satisfied.

[Eight]

I'm sure I've ranked Hoes higher than anyone else, but I do think the O's have a gem here. He walks about twice as often as he strikes out, and he was 10-for-10 as a base stealer. To me those are indications that he is off the charts in terms of baseball intelligence--I've never seen an O's prospect with those kind of numbers, even in the GCL. Plus he hit .300 with some pop, so he's got plenty of tools. Defense is the only question mark, but he might hit enough to make it on his bat alone.

Good post. I'm not sure I'd have him that high, but I too like Hoes a lot. There's a place for him in the top 10, and I certainly would not call a rating of #7 unreasonable. Maybe he doesn't have the upside that other guys have, but I'm excited to see a guy that seems to have a wide range of skills at such a young age - intelligence is a good way to describe it, I think.

I'm surprised that Berken is so much lower on so many lists than Bergesen. Now I know that Berken is almost two years older, but. . .

Berken: (12-4, 3.58 in 145.2 IP; 7.72 K/9, 2.35 BB/9, 0.56 HR/9)
Bergesen: (15-6, 3.22 in 148 IP; 4.38 K/9, 1.64 BB/9, 0.67 HR/9)

That gap in age is probably the big advantage, on paper, for Bergesen, but the miniscule amount of K's swings it to Berken in a big way (although his rate isn't that stellar). I don't see either of them being much in the big leagues, unfortunately, but I like Berken more.