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    Please just do something

    I'm trying so hard to be positive. I really am. But it's hard to be hopeful heading into the Winter Meetings next week.

    We whiffed on working out an extension with Markakis. We'll meet with him again late next month which is a positive; however, the word "impasse" is always a cause for concern.

    It seems like a BRob extension or trade is in limbo, which is a very bad sign, IMO.

    For two guys, who want to play (*ahem*) for the O's so bad, there's been no rumors as of late about Teixeira or Burnett's "interest" in Baltimore. And now that the Braves are offering Burnett a 5-year deal, you can say "adios" to him.

    Also, we whiffed on trading for Greene, who would have been our first serviceable SS since Tejada. And worse, for those of you who liked the rumored Pie-Olson deal, now there are rumors that the Pads think they can hang onto Peavy, so you can kiss a deal for Pie and Cedeno goodbye as well.

    With the exception of the snazzy new road uniforms, there's not much to be excited about right now. Is there something I'm missing? I feel like for every step forward, we take two steps back.


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    I too think they should make a move just for the sake of action rather than wait to make smart moves as they become available.

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    I know exactly how you feel. It's like watching paint dry. Hopefully the patient approach eventually will yield the results we want, but in the meantime it's pretty unbearable.

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    Baltimore Orioles 2009 "Please just do something"

    Not as catchy as "Orioles magic" but I'd put the bumper sticker on a visible spot on my automobile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackus View Post
    I too think they should make a move just for the sake of action rather than wait to make smart moves as they become available.
    That's not what I meant and you know it.

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    I realize every off season we have the highest of hopes...but I feel like a lot of folks really want something done this off season...and I can't blame them. But I think a lot of people are in for a big let down. I went into this offseason with very low expectations and I am sticking to it for the main reason that AM can only do so much with what he has. Thin positonal depth in minors, just enough pitching depth in minors so can't be trading them, we're not attractive to any decent FA's, no one wants the older junk on the roster, i.e. Ramon, Walker, Mora, etc..

    There's just not a lot that can happen...and I know some folks will say then AM needs to be more creative but look, he's a GM not a magician, we need to be patient for another year or so, yes that sucks but that is reality.

    Izturis, Byrd(yuk) and that's about it folks....that's all I see happening. Obviously I hope I am way wrong but I certainly am not banking on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACE View Post
    Baltimore Orioles 2009 "Please just do something"
    This will make a great canidate for the opening day shirts.

    I share your frustration Lex, but I agree with Mackus's sarcasm.

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    Things are going to get done. How many things? Not sure. Be patient. MacPhail is trying to do his work intelligently and for the best interest of the team for the long run. Not just do something, like a poster said, for the sake of doing something. I am confident that we'll get some things done at the winter meetings and have a good team in place for spring training. MacPhail knows what he needs to do and Angelos is sticking by him. The rebuilding started last year and he's already stated that we'll be taking a more different approach this season, with targets in free agency. Hold on.

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    Remember, Andy MacPhail is the guy who when asked what he would like to tell the fans after he didn't make any trades at the deadline last season, "at least I didn't do anything stupid".

    Andy works at his own pace. He's shown now several times in both trade negotiations and player negotiations, it's a deal he really likes or it's no deal at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackus View Post
    I too think they should make a move just for the sake of action rather than wait to make smart moves as they become available.
    Seriously.

    Lex, you're starting to hit the panic button. Relax, bro!!!!! Walk the dog, bake some cookies, it'll all be okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaosLex View Post
    I'm trying so hard to be positive. I really am. But it's hard to be hopeful heading into the Winter Meetings next week.

    We whiffed on working out an extension with Markakis. We'll meet with him again late next month which is a positive; however, the word "impasse" is always a cause for concern.

    It seems like a BRob extension or trade is in limbo, which is a very bad sign, IMO.

    For two guys, who want to play (*ahem*) for the O's so bad, there's been no rumors as of late about Teixeira or Burnett's "interest" in Baltimore. And now that the Braves are offering Burnett a 5-year deal, you can say "adios" to him.

    Also, we whiffed on trading for Greene, who would have been our first serviceable SS since Tejada. And worse, for those of you who liked the rumored Pie-Olson deal, now there are rumors that the Pads think they can hang onto Peavy, so you can kiss a deal for Pie and Cedeno goodbye as well.

    With the exception of the snazzy new road uniforms, there's not much to be excited about right now. Is there something I'm missing? I feel like for every step forward, we take two steps back.
    I understand your frustration but Greene was not the answer to our shortstop need. He's just not that good. I would have traded Olsen for him because I'm not that high on him but I'm very happy we didn't trade any of our young pitching prospects for him.

    Although I like Cedeno, if Isturis is willing to come to the O's, and that may be a big if, I would be OK with that as a short term solution.

    Time to come down off of the ledge and relax. We have a long cold winter ahead.

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    Plus... it feels like a lot of us around here are wanting "bigger" moves. There haven't been, really, any "bigger" moves by any team just yet... We just gotta see how it settles... and then complain if we need to.

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    Happens every year, Mr. Lex. Don't wish for action for the sake of action. You won't like those results.

    Sometimes the best thing for the hot stove yips is to stop visiting a fan site. Unfortunately. I so very rarely hit the O's Talk before anything's happened. And when I do I tend to stick to discussions involving current personnel and not any sort of signing/trading discussion.

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    You know what the best part of the baseball off-season is?

    It coincides with the regular (and in many cases post-) seasons of pro football, college football, pro basketball, college basketball, hockey...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaosLex View Post
    With the exception of the snazzy new road uniforms, there's not much to be excited about right now. Is there something I'm missing? I feel like for every step forward, we take two steps back.
    Funny, that's how I feel about the execution of the "Baltimore" script on those "snazzy new road uniforms"!

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