Greene, Wilson, Renteria are out.

[blackandorange]

Reported on ESPN that Greene has been traded to STL. Doesn't say for who but a right handed bullpen arm. Certainly looks like a salary dump to me. Wonder why the O's didn't pull the trigger.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3744063

[Sanfran327]

Thanks for the info!!

[OrioleBird79]

Reported on ESPN that Greene has been traded to STL. Doesn't say for who but a right handed bullpen arm. Certainly looks like a salary dump to me. Wonder why the O's didn't pull the trigger.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3744063

We have been talking about the trade since late last night under another Greene thread. They are getting back two relievers. One lefty and one righty I take it. It was a salary move, but they should get back at least one decent reliever.

[Enjoy Terror]

In his defense, the thread on the main page is "Greene to Baltimore?", this thread is "Green to St Louis, not Baltimore"... so it's not really the same thread, but we would likely be having the same discussion in this thread as we would the other one.

[Greg Pappas]

I would like to point out that unless you go into the Greene to Baltimore thread, you would not be aware that he has been traded. I found out thanks to this thread. Nothing wrong at all with starting a new thread.

I am not surprised by this move, and it will be interesting to see how he responds away from Petco and with a new team.

[Enjoy Terror]

You could probably merge that other thread with this one.

[Greg Pappas]

You could probably merge that other thread with this one.

Nah, the mix wouldn't be right in my view.

[SilentJames]

Greene would not have been a very good move for us.

He would have been an expensive one-year rental. We could have tried to re-sign him, but I think we either need a cheap defensive stop-gap (Izturis) or try to find someone young that can be groomed.

Is there anyone that might be available through Rule 5?

[Basketeer]

I've never really said anything about new guys posting stuff that already exists, but come on... it's literally the top thread on the main page. Does anybody pay any attention to this whatsoever??

I don't understand why it's such a big deal, there were no other threads dedicated to this specific topic. It's always a big pissing match on here to see who can post what first, which is kinda ridiculous.

[bej6789]

Barring something unforseen, doesn't this make Cesar Izturis pretty much our opening day short stop?

[blackandorange]

Thanks Guys.

Who wants to read through 10 pages of stuff about the possible SS for the O's in 2009 and find out on page 12 that Greene actually got traded to STL.

I figure just start a new one to discuss how Greene got away. Wonder what happen? Any insider info? Sounded like a true salary dump to me. Besides starting pitching, SS is the biggest hole we have to fill. Would have been nice to see the numbers Greene would have put up in a stadium like Camden Yards.

[Satyr3206]

Greene would not have been a very good move for us.

He would have been an expensive one-year rental. We could have tried to re-sign him, but I think we either need a cheap defensive stop-gap (Izturis) or try to find someone young that can be groomed.

Is there anyone that might be available through Rule 5?

I tend to agree. While Greene would have been an upgrade I don't like the one year aspect or the salary for a player coming off a terrible year. I also think defense is very important to the pitching staff. Izturis is looking more and more like the 09 starting SS.

[Greg Pappas]

Barring something unforseen, doesn't this make Cesar Izturis pretty much our opening day short stop?

It's a possibility certainly, but far from a sure thing. We still have other options, although a trade would be the more likely route sans Izturis.

[Tx Oriole]

Instead of saying anything to a new guy why not say something to those that have to start a Tex thread? There are a lot of those.

[CrimsonTribe]

I would like to point out that unless you go into the Greene to Baltimore thread, you would not be aware that he has been traded. I found out thanks to this thread. Nothing wrong at all with starting a new thread.

I am not surprised by this move, and it will be interesting to see how he responds away from Petco and with a new team.

I also learned about it from this thread as the actual news that he got traded is somewhere in the middle of that other one.

I'd like to know what relievers they gave up. Until then we can't really evaluate whether or not we should have made a trade for Greene.