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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbird View Post
    That's ok... I just won't post anything else I hear. No biggie!
    Bigbird, please cut out the "I'm going to take ball and leave" mentality.

    We appreciate your information, but you can't be afraid of criticism from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTrea81 View Post
    How about this tidbit from Roch:



    Maybe if the Orioles had stepped up and made an effort to sign Moyer (who didn't cost a draft pick) we'd have him in the fold right now. Negotiations with the Phillies broke down and yet the Orioles never made an attempt. And I don't care how old he is, he can still pitch...

    He was cheap and good and the Orioles passed on him when they are desperate for arms. Go figure...
    OH PLEASE! You have to be kidding me. Jamie Moyer? We have no need for Jamie Moyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentJames View Post
    OH PLEASE! You have to be kidding me. Jamie Moyer? We have no need for Jamie Moyer.
    I'll remember that when you see Hendrickson getting lit up in the rotation start after start...

    Moyer will earn every penny of that 8 million per season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbird View Post
    Me either.... as long as we sign some of those better options. Hendrickson is not one.
    Agreed. I would prefer to stick our AA guys out there from day one than to pay for crap and get what we pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTrea81 View Post
    I'll remember that when you see Hendrickson getting lit up in the rotation start after start...

    Moyer will earn every penny of that 8 million per season.
    Moyer in the AL East spells disaster. At least Hendrickson can provide with you some upside in the bullpen. With Moyer you know what you're going to get and it's not worth $13MM over 2 years with $7MM in incentives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tywright View Post
    Moyer in the AL East spells disaster. At least Hendrickson can provide with you some upside in the bullpen. With Moyer you know what you're going to get and it's not worth $13MM over 2 years with $7MM in incentives.
    Um....How do you figure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinidad View Post
    Um....How do you figure?
    You want to pay Moyer 8 million a year to be in the pen? Hendrickson can do that for 1/8th cost and half the contract length.

    People are making way too much out of that deal. He is filler, nothing more nothing less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinidad View Post
    Um....How do you figure?
    He appears to know where the plate is. That is quite valuable in Baltimore. Other than that, probably not much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tywright View Post
    Moyer in the AL East spells disaster. At least Hendrickson can provide with you some upside in the bullpen. With Moyer you know what you're going to get and it's not worth $13MM over 2 years with $7MM in incentives.
    Moyer was pretty darn good last season, better than any Oriole pitcher and he was 45 and showing no signs of slowing down. He's pitched 195 innings at least every season since 2001. CBP is a launching pad much like OPACY and yet he did pretty well there.

    Just what about Moyer turns you off other than the fact he'll be 46?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbird View Post
    That's ok... I just won't post anything else I hear. No biggie!
    Over the years, how many times have we heard this rerun?
    Not everyone is going to agree with you even if "they take it with a grain of salt." I think alot of your stuff is fictional, but I enjoy reading it and the reaction you get. You keep this board jumping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentJames View Post
    You want to pay Moyer 8 million a year to be in the pen? Hendrickson can do that for 1/8th cost and half the contract length.

    People are making way too much out of that deal. He is filler, nothing more nothing less.
    Right now he's our #2 starter. And he's going to be another Trachsel in the rotation. I don't know how you aren't seeing this...

    I'd rather pay more money for a better starter that will actually eat innings so my bullpen isn't blown to bits come July...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinidad View Post
    Um....How do you figure?
    He has a career ERA of 3.39 out of the pen. And last year his reliever ERA was 3.03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tywright View Post
    He has a career ERA of 3.39 out of the pen. And last year his reliever ERA was 3.03.
    That's fine but he's going to be in our rotation, where he's not good nor an innings eater...

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    You telling me that 20 million a year is a low ball offer? I wonder if you will ever get over this. T81 if you were the GM how many years and money would yiou have given Tex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTrea81 View Post
    I'll remember that when you see Hendrickson getting lit up in the rotation start after start...

    Moyer will earn every penny of that 8 million per season.
    I mean no disrespect, but honestly, who cares? Sure, Jamie Moyer would help our staff this year. But he's not going to be here on our next playoff team. I'd hate to see us waste 8 million on Jamie Moyer when that money could be spent improving our international facilities or helping us sign draft picks.

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