View Poll Results: Who will the Orioles select?
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Tanner Scheppers - P
Zach Wheeler - P
Shelby Miller - P
Matt Purke - P
Jacob Turner - P
Other (feel free to say whom)
Thread: The Reality of It All
06-07-2009 01:52 AM #1
The Reality of It All
I'm guessing the first four picks of this draft play out with the following four players taken before we pick:
1 Steven Strasburg RHP You may have heard of him by now, 50.4% K 5.2%BB, great stuff, his tears may cure cancer 20.8 SDSU 1 ↔
2 Dustin Ackley CF Draft's best hitter, .405/.511/.744 with 44 BB and 27 K, ++ runner should cover ground in CF 21.2 UNC 2 ↔
3 Tyler Matzek LHP Clean mechanics, good control, deep pitch repitroire, projection and polish…so everything 18.5 HS 3 ↔
4 Donavan Tate CF Tremendous athlete with fantastic five tool potential, UNC commit could be pricey 18.6 HS 4 ↔
Assuming that happens, now we're talking about the REAL Orioles selection.
Who do you think we take if it plays out this way?
06-07-2009 02:08 AM #2Plus Member since 8/07 All-Star
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I would go with Crow or Green if the top 4 played out like that - and I'd be happy with the pick. Alex White wouldn't be too far behind for me, though I know I'm still higher on him than others. After that come the guys you've listed.
06-07-2009 06:05 AM #3
Why would Crow not be included in this poll?
06-07-2009 06:51 AM #4
I think Crow goes in the top 4 but if he's there I think the O's would take him. My next best guess would be Wheeler under your scenario.
06-07-2009 10:56 AM #5
06-07-2009 10:59 AM #6GCL O's
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Given this list Crow would be my guess.
06-07-2009 11:58 AM #7
I think Matzek could drop to us, and if he does I will be furious if we pass on him.
06-07-2009 12:02 PM #8
Wheeler will be our pick, IMO. I think we'll select him over Matzek IF they're both available. Jordan sees something about the kid he likes.
06-07-2009 01:48 PM #9
Re: Crow - there's just as much buzz regarding Alex White, Matt Purke, Gibson, Turner, Wheeler - -
Does Crow have ANY red flags?
Just curious what consensus is on this 5th pick given that I think they got the first four right (even if the order may change in which they were selected.
06-07-2009 01:57 PM #10
Here are some quick notes on some of the guys who might be available:
Jacob Turner, RHP
Westminster Christian High School
Height: 6-5 Weight: 210 Age: 18 Bats: R Throws: R
Fastball – Speed: Low-90s
Command: His command is normally there, other times, not so much
Movement: Minimal movement, high in the zone
Slider - Speed: Mid 70s
Command: Can miss high with this a lot, affects his pitch very much
Movement: A normal slider movement, if down in the zone it can be dominant
Changeup – Speed: High 70s
Command: Has average command over this, like most high schoolers
Movement: Near average movement
Jacob Turner measures in as one of the biggest pitchers in the draft, and that makes Detroit Tigers GM, Dave Dombrowski, drool, as that has been their forte of his first-rounders over the years. Turner’s big frame makes scouts think he could throw mid-90s consistently one day.
Because his fastball is a little slow, he turns to his slider down in the zone, since he misses with the heater up in the zone a lot. The changeup needs work and has very little movement.
He is committed to North Carolina for next season, and could probably use the college ball to ready his arm for professional ball. Turner needs to improve his velocity, he could definitely do that at N.C.
Alex White, RHP
North Carolina University
Height: 6-3 Weight: 200 Age: 20 Bats: R Throws: R
Fastball – Speed: High-80s – Low-90s
Command: Nothing to brag about, but this is his best commanded pitch
Movement: Tailing action
Curveball - Speed: Low-80s
Command: Minimal command over the curve, just tries to get it over the plate
Movement: Average curveball ‘curve’
Slider - Speed: Low-Mid 80s
Command: Plus command
Movement: Slips away from righties, most promising pitch from him
Changeup – Speed: High 70s
Command: This needs work on this pitch
Movement: When he throws one, its average, at best
The only other pitcher to have four pitches to show in this draft is Alex White, a junior at North Carolina. White was named the 2008 ACC Player of the Year from his successes last season in the Baby Blue uniform.
White has the ideal pitcher’s body. He was a two sport athlete in high school, as he also dominated the hard wood for the basketball team.
His arsenal of pitches are fantastic. A fastball that can hit 94 MPH with a slider that has a ton of potential. The changeup does need to improve though, especially the movement. He struggled early on in the 2009 season until he shut down the University of Miami in mid-April, now he’s back on track.
06-07-2009 02:00 PM #11
What about Mychal Givens, RHP/SS
School & Hometown: Plant HS; Tampa, FL
Specs: 6′1, 190, Bats R, Throws R
Scouting Report: You can take a look at some video I took of Givens, what I thought of him from my first two looks, and my full thoughts from the initial Hot 30 rankings. Givens is an athletic and heady leader, a very good defender, and has a solid stroke with a little pop. I didn’t see enough size/projection (looks in person like 5′10, 175), power, or consistent hitability to project him as a first round pick, but realized that his track record, makeup, and performance give him upward mobility on draft boards. At the PG National showcase, he was up to 94 while flashing an above-average slider and changeup from a low 3/4 arm angle; similar to what I saw, but showing improvement across the board. As it stands now, there’s a slight lean from the people I’ve talked to for Givens to stay on the mound, but his progess on the mound and at the plate should be an interesting draft storyline to monitor.
(Markakis path to Majors from mound to field?)
06-07-2009 02:10 PM #12
06-07-2009 02:17 PM #13GCL O's
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I think it is between three people, which ever falls. Ackley (could fall because the Mariners have recently said they might not want to pay the 6 million signing bonus, the Padres are cutting payroll so they do not want to pay the 6 mil, and the Pirates are cheap and will not pay the 6 mil) would be the best choice, he is the best hitter in the draft and if he gets by the Padres he is ours. Crow is arguably the best pitcher in the draft after Strasburg and already has Pro experience (he is pitching very well in an independent league right now). Lastly Scheppers, he is much like Crow, young and close to major league ready, those would be the best choices for the O's. Keith Law has Ackley ranked #2, Scheppers #3 and Crow #4, so all those picks could be good and end up being on the club in midsummer 2010. I don't believe the O's will take a high school prospect because the last high schooler that the O's took top ten has been in the minors for three years and is still only mediocre in Frederick (Billy Rowell).
06-07-2009 02:58 PM #14
If Ackley is there, he'll be the pick no doubt. Otherwise it will be Wheeler IMO...
06-07-2009 03:21 PM #15