Angelos declined Ripken's offer to join team

[GoldGlove21]

Angelos, however, nixed the idea in a separate conversation with Ripken, telling him, according to three sources, that he did not want Ripken to receive credit once the team returned to prominence.

I'm sorry, I just find this a little bit incredible. Outside of MacPhail, there were three sources in the conversation between Angelos and Ripken who ALL reported this to Rosenthal???? Are you kidding me? Maybe three different persons told this to Rosenthal, but if Andy MacPhail isn't in the room, who the hell else is in there with Big Pete and Cal?

So when ESPN announces breaks a story of a trade between two teams the source was always in the room? You couldn't have an internal discussion in my office behing closed doors without some folks either hearing it or hearing about it. People might not know what Cal said to Angelos directly, but they likely knew Cal was coming in and could easily know why he was coming in. I am sure people at MASN hear things they can not report because they work for MASN.

Look at the sources we have in Maryland. We have MASN, WNST, The Sun, and ESPN. MASN and ESPN have ties with the team as does the Sun. WNST has limited sources because they are so hard on the team, but even then we find out things from them that is not announced on the mothership. If we are going this route, then news would never be reported. I think it is just a nieve way of looking at how journalists operate.

[GoldGlove21]

It seems he may not.

If I were Peter Angelos and wanted to keep my team, Cal Ripken is the one guy who would worry me. He is beloved throughout the game and I could only imagine that MLB would love to see Ripken replace a guy like Angelos.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Oh this is awesome:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/S...for-job-041610

If this is true..I am not happy
I love CAL!

[carolinaoriole]

I will in the same manner that I look at the way the Orioles run thier organization with a huge grain of salt. Rosenthal is a much better journalist than the Orioles are a baseball team at this point. I might not trust either one, but it seems that a lot of people have beef with the Orioles. We are a crap organization right now and it is hard for me to say that. Nothing Angelos could do or say would shock me right now.

I will say this, even Rosenthal just cooked this up it was a good one! Nothing will get Orioles fans upset more than Cal being rejected. If it brings about change for the better then I do not care if it was true or not. I have a new promotion, instead of giving away magnet schedules to the first 25,000 fans they should give away wins. Wait they are already doing that!!!

It breaks my heart that the orioles are losing .
Cal is our hero but his time has passed.
Just like Brooks and Frank and Palmers time before him.
We need new heroes.
And perhaps if people like Rosenthal would use the platform that they have to call out the problems that help to cause once great teams like the Orioles and Pirates and Royals to be annual losers.
I would have more faith in them.

Instead they spend there time on crap like this.
If I ever get the chance to meet him ,I am going to point blank ask him why he does not spend more time exposing the fact that the game is rigged for a few teams to win.
And why he makes stuff up!!!!!

[Roy Firestone]

Oh this is awesome:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/S...for-job-041610

But if even some of it is true,its an embarrassment to this once proud organization. First Brooks, now Cal. If its true, the Orioles should be ashamed.

[PitchingWins]

But if even some of it is true,its an embarrassment to this once proud organization. First Brooks, now Cal. If its true, the Orioles should be ashamed.

Roy,

Should I believe this? I mean what was said. I just, I just, don't know. Since you are in the industry. Is Rosenthal to be trusted? Could this be true?

[carolinaoriole]

But if even some of it is true,its an embarrassment to this once proud organization. First Brooks, now Cal. If its true, the Orioles should be ashamed.

Perhaps someone could call in to Cal and Billy's XM radio show next week and ask him.
For the record if he says it is true I will eat my Oriole batting helmet and never question Rosenthal again.

[BaltimoreTerp]

A made up story??

Ah, so you understand nothing at all about journalism. Gotcha.

[UMDTerrapins]

What shocks me is that people have trouble believing this.

[BaltimoreTerp]

Angelos, however, nixed the idea in a separate conversation with Ripken, telling him, according to three sources, that he did not want Ripken to receive credit once the team returned to prominence.

I'm sorry, I just find this a little bit incredible. Outside of MacPhail, there were three sources in the conversation between Angelos and Ripken who ALL reported this to Rosenthal???? Are you kidding me? Maybe three different persons told this to Rosenthal, but if Andy MacPhail isn't in the room, who the hell else is in there with Big Pete and Cal?

Or he heard parts, possibly some overlapping, from three separate sources, and put it together himself. That's what reporters do.

[carolinaoriole]

Ah, so you understand nothing at all about journalism. Gotcha.

I understand that I believe that every one of them has there own agenda.
take espn for example.
They of course are based very close to new york.
And they go home after work and if they have a family they probably watch sports at home with there kids and the rest of there family and friends.
And if they take the kids to the mall and they buy little johnny a derek jeter jersey and go to the game and cheer on the Yankees.
Do you believe that it is possible for that person to be unbiased?
I do not, and that is fine just be open about it.


I trust Angelos a lot more than some guy with a typewriter and an agenda.

[UMDTerrapins]

I really hope that AM was one of the sources. Honestly, if I was AM and was told that I would have total control over baseball decisions, but something so 100% logical was vetoed purely for vanity's sake, I'd leak it. And consider quitting. The only thing I can agree with is PA's sense that his legacy in Baltimore is villainous and Cal would take away some credit if the team returned to respectability. Spot on.

[NewMarketSean]

Yep...This will be the last straw with many fans.

You know what. I am awake at 6:30 on a Saturday morning because I wanted to see the score of the game last night. Now i don't know why I bothered.

This is making me consider watching another game with Angelos as owner. It's that bad.

[Welcome_Home]

I really hope that AM was one of the sources. Honestly, if I was AM and was told that I would have total control over baseball decisions, but something so 100% logical was vetoed purely for vanity's sake, I'd leak it. And consider quitting. The only thing I can agree with is PA's sense that his legacy in Baltimore is villainous and Cal would take away some credit if the team returned to respectability. Spot on.

Spite is great motivation for AM. True or Untrue this is sad.

[AlbNYfan]

I'm not sure whether it's true or false. I don't see why Rosenthal would write an article that didn't have some basis of truth...and of course if Cal offered some type of help or consultation to the O's and PA refused it, it would seem to be a stupid thing to do. But, really what sort of thing or how involved was Cal's offer to the team? I get the feeling that Cal is very busy and still wants to be available for his family. I am surprised that he doesn't spend time down in ST with the O's. Was he at the O's opener??? So, perhaps PA is jealous of Cal and the attention he would get. But, really, how would he improve this team if he was allowed to join it? I love Cal and think he is a wonderful ambassador to the game, but what tangible way would help improve this team? If you think he'd bring back the Oriole Way or his work ethic to the team you are crazy. Cal, Brooks, Frank, Palmer, Eddie are wonderful memories and they should be treated with respect for all their accomplishments. However, I don't think anyone of them can wave their O's hat and Oriole Magic will return.