C'mon Sean. Since apparently you're calling Angelos a liar, what are some of the lies he has told?Originally Posted by NewMarketSean
I mean this is pretty subjective but there's a difference between "promising" something and not fulfilling it and flat out telling a lie.
Peter Angelos, PressBox Interview September 14, 2006:
Peter Angelos, MLB.com article February 1, 2010I would really say the past seven years or so we have been, along with the other two teams, at the bottom of the totem pole with New York and Boston at the top…both of which have RSN's (Regional Sports Networks) like we just managed to accomplish, and have had them for years. So, their revenues have been so substantial by comparison to Toronto, Tampa Bay and the Orioles.
In answer to your question, now that we have an RSN and we can move forward with it…that is going get us on a more even plane with Boston and New York, and that was the purpose.
He believes franchises such as the Orioles -- unable to generate huge revenues -- cannot remain competitive, or at least stay even with teams such as the Yankees and Red Sox.
"It's a question of how much money you can generate," he said. "Once in a while there is an exception to that rule, but it cannot be sustained year-to-year. It's an old story: How much money do you have? We're in that kind of economic system and those rules apply."
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In all honesty, we don't know how much money MASN is bringing in. YES and NESN are without a doubt substantially more profitable, though.
Did it occur to you that maybe he isn't lying in this instance, but that he was just wrong about how much money MASN would generate?
In addition to that, it hasn't even been four years since he said that. It's not like the Nationals and O's are tearing it up and people are flocking to see this team. We aren't going to make the money with this RSN that the Yankees and Boston can. Not now, maybe not ever. Maybe if he could show the Wizards and Caps too, but he can't. Even then, not likely to match their revenues from RSNs.
The Nationals are a drain on MASN. Their TV ratings were the worst in MLB last year and MASN still ended up paying them around $25m yearly for broadcast rights.
Washington Post June 2009Nationals' broadcasts on MASN and MASN2 are still averaging just a 0.53 rating and 12,000 households in the Washington market, numbers that are by far the worst in the major leagues. Aside from the Oakland Athletics -- who have the American League's worst record -- every U.S.-based MLB team has attracted a television audience more than twice as big as the Nationals'.
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We also have to take into consideration the cost of MASN implementing HD and boosting up the quality of the broadcasts (both in game and pre/post game).
I think folks blaming Angelos for not making this team a high spender and using MASN as a tool for that blame are stretching. The network features the Nats and the O's and is still young.
I am not sure what I believe in all of this...But I do certainly believe PA would say something like that...Whether he did or not in this instance, I am not sure.
Like I said, PA supposedly has a good relationship with Cal but I am not sure that means anything.
Not sure if anyone else has chimed in on this point, however I wanted to look into Angelos' response to Rosental's report a little bit further. Angelos said:
"Quite simply, Cal Ripken did not offer to become part of the Oriole organization in any secondary position, such as manager or as an assistant to [team president] Andy MacPhail, or in some kind of support role of MacPhail," Angelos said. "If he wants to make such a proposal, I'd like to hear about it.
Included in Rosenthal's report was the fact that Ripken and PG sat down sometime around the winter meetings last year!
Is it possible that PG responded "secondary position, such as manager or assistant...." because Angelos was approached by Cal about becoming an investor or part owner of the Orioles, a totally separate position (Primary) than GM or manager?. PA's wording was chosen carefully and that could be the reason why he declined Cal's involvement as an owner of the O's?
Just a thought!
This is just silly. We don't really know exactly what he means when he says on "a more even plane". Is he referring to just having an RSN and reaching more homes like the Sawx and Yanks or is he referring to generating the same amount of revenues from that RSN? We don't know. Either way, if it's the latter it's not a lie. Being wrong about something is not even close to being the same as lying about something.
And if PA does have a good relationship with Cal, maybe PA felt comfortable saying that to him.
It may not have sounded as *****y as it does out of context. Maybe Angelos spelled out his reasoning for turning down Cal in a respectable manner. Maybe Angelos said "this is not the time" because the team is so bad and it would look like Cal didn't do a good job if the team doesnt improve.
Maybe what we are hearing is all out of context and sounds worse than it really is. But if that was the case I would have wished Angelos would have alluded to that in his comments.
What Angelos did was flat out deny anything that Rosenthal said ever happened, and that leaves me feeling uncomfortable because I don't think Rosenthal would have printed something that had no basis in truth.
Wouldn't it be nice to hear from the owner?
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