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Old 10-20-2009, 11:06 PM
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Watching the Yankee$ win it all...

...is like watching some sick, sadistic bastard stuff money into a puppy until it dies. I can't take this any more. There really isn't even much hope that they'll lose another game this season.

Nice trophy you bought there, $teingrabber Jr and Jr! Hope you enjoy it.

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Old 10-20-2009, 11:14 PM
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IF the Dodgers can pull it off... I think they have a real mental advantage. Otherwise.... it's what I said in February.... Skanks spend half a billion, buy championship. Film at 11.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:27 PM
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Forgive me..but this is the only place that understands..

That every run, hit, good play and great pitch by the Yankees makes my blood boil.
They are a machine,and I wont deny their greatness.But I am so tired of seeing baseball dominated by corporate acquisitions.Im sick of big buck ballplayers all signing with the same team.
This isnt a ballclub.Its a multinational corporation.
Give me all the stats you want about how so many "small market" teams have won titles.Tell me how much the Orioles dont spend and dont want to compete with the big boys. its all true.
But everytime I watch the Yankees succeed, and they are in it every year, even if they dont always win it...it reminds me that baseball will never be on a level playing field without a salary cap.Its bad for baseball, bad for the fans and bad for me personally.
I hate those guys.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:28 PM
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:42 PM
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Hate to say it but if its Yanks and Phils, I gotta pull for NY. Theres nothing more annoying in the world than a Philly fan, especially when they are always beating the Dodgers.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:53 PM
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I totally agree with you, Roy, but I made peace with the situation personally by reminding myself that life is not fair. Life is not fair, and I don't use baseball to escape from life, but rather to see life dramas played out between the white lines.

When the Yankees falter, crumble and fall --and believe me, they will- trampling on their grave will be all the more sweeter.
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How can any of the players/fans really have any sort of sense of accomplishment? They work within the parameters of neither a salary cap or any sort of revenue stunting rule that actually effects them.

They simply go out and buy up everything and win. The team has no personality, and, frankly, if I were a fan I'd be happy but I wouldn't be *happy*.
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The Phillies will give the Yanks a run for their money.

And, though I'm getting awfully tired of saying it, most Phillies fans I know are just like the O's fans here -- smart, good people that you'd be want to have a beer with and watch a game.

If you're ever up this way, MikeAD, I'll buy the first round and show you what I mean.
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In a way you gotta feel sorry for Yankee fans. They have no choice but to root for this machine that was thrown together.

It's sorta like rooting for the Predator when he rips Carl Weather's arms off.
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That every run, hit, good play and great pitch by the Yankees makes my blood boil.
They are a machine,and I wont deny their greatness.But I am so tired of seeing baseball dominated by corporate acquisitions.Im sick of big buck ballplayers all signing with the same team.
This isnt a ballclub.Its a multinational corporation.
Give me all the stats you want about how so many "small market" teams have won titles.Tell me how much the Orioles dont spend and dont want to compete with the big boys. its all true.
But everytime I watch the Yankees succeed, and they are in it every year, even if they dont always win it...it reminds me that baseball will never be on a level playing field without a salary cap.Its bad for baseball, bad for the fans and bad for me personally.
I hate those guys.
I agree Roy and even the argument surrounding why they are good for baseball is bad for baseball. Fans of the Yankees argue that the Yankees fans travel well and aid in selling tickets in other parks. They argue that the Yankees pay a luxury tax that makes it easier for small market teams to operate and make their teams better. In reality Toronto, Baltimore, and Tampa Bay are not aided in the least by the Red Sox and Yankees combined $350 Million roster of players. Those two payrolls combine for $30 Million less than the team payrolls for Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Oakland, Washington, Pittsburgh, San Diego, and Florida COMBINED! Over the last 5 years the Yankees team payroll has just about equaled the net worth of the Baltimore Ravens!

One of the main reasons why football has so many fans is because every team gets a chance to compete. There is 16 regular season games and 1 upset means that you just won 1/16th of your season. A little luck and you can make the playoffs. Baseball plays 162 games a year so there is so many opportunities for the good teams to rise to the top. There is very little parity in baseball. The Twins, Cardinals, Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, Dodgers, and Phillies were teams I expected to make the playoffs. Only the Rockies were outside of my best guess (I thought the Giants would be in). That is 7 out of the 8 teams picked by a baseball nobody. I can pick at least 6 almost every year! The Yankees have won more than a quarter of all World Series Championships and that my friends is bad for the game.

Ask the Royals if they would rather have the $3.5 Million a year they get from the Yankees or the 5 wins that the Yankees cost them every year and see what they say. It is just so much easier for the Yankees to fix the mistakes that push other teams another year away from real competiveness. Oh, Gil Meche didn't work out? Let's go out and give someone else $15 Million a year to pitch. A star player is getting old? Let's go get the best three free agents on the market. How about this for a rule? A team can only sign two players who make north of $13 Million a year per offseason. You can call it the Yankee rule, because NO other team does that on a consistant basis.

To add insult to injury, MLB waits this long before deciding to put international talent into the draft. In the past the Yankees could sign the premium free agents and sign the premium international talents. That will level the playing field a bit as long as MLB adopts some sort of real slotting system to deter agents from asking for large amounts of money to push their guys to the upper echelon teams. The Yankees have just used MLB's system against them and this whole mess (including steroids) is MLB's fault.

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That every run, hit, good play and great pitch by the Yankees makes my blood boil.
They are a machine,and I wont deny their greatness.But I am so tired of seeing baseball dominated by corporate acquisitions.Im sick of big buck ballplayers all signing with the same team.
This isnt a ballclub.Its a multinational corporation.
Give me all the stats you want about how so many "small market" teams have won titles.Tell me how much the Orioles dont spend and dont want to compete with the big boys. its all true.
But everytime I watch the Yankees succeed, and they are in it every year, even if they dont always win it...it reminds me that baseball will never be on a level playing field without a salary cap.Its bad for baseball, bad for the fans and bad for me personally.
I hate those guys.
Get rid of the unbalanced schedule, and I can deal with the rest.
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Hate the Yankees

Any decent human being loathes the Yankees. (The only exceptions are Bronx natives who support the home team.) Yankee fans are the same kind of people who rooted for the Roman Empire to defeat Spartacus, who cheered when the Inquisition burned witches alive at the stake, and who were delighted when the Russian army clamped down on those pesky Hungarians. Yankee fans are appalled by the story of Moses leading the Jewish slaves out of Egypt or the U.S.A. hockey team beating the Russian red machine at the Olympics.

My psychological problem is that I care about the Orioles and MLB. It's completely stupid. MLB is not a level playing field. Anybody who thinks otherwise is just kidding themself. A sane person would ignore the farce of MLB competition.

The remote chance that David will slay Goliath must be the irrational reason to follow the standings. That's always a possibility because of the luck that is intrinsic to the game.

If I can't root for the O's during the playoffs, than I can cheer on any other team playing against the Yankees.

Individual games can be interesting and competitive. Even the worst team usually wins about 40% of their games. I want to watch the great plays some Orioles players make during a season. Thus I will continue following the O's and try as best I can to avoid dreaming about winning a world series.
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How can any of the players/fans really have any sort of sense of accomplishment? They work within the parameters of neither a salary cap or any sort of revenue stunting rule that actually effects them.

They simply go out and buy up everything and win. The team has no personality, and, frankly, if I were a fan I'd be happy but I wouldn't be *happy*.
Pedro gets it! The Yanks spent X to achieve Y. The Yanks are up 3-1. The frickin Phillies are up 3-1. I ALMOST hate the Phillies more than the Yanks... It's Skanks/Shrills in the series. And at that point... who gives a crap?
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