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Carlos Delgado?

I've been seeing Delgado's name on here a lot, but why do people think we'll sign him?

For one the Mets are going to monitor his Winter League performance just like the Orioles, and if healthy, why wouldn't he go back to the Mets? Do we think we can actually outbid the Mets and do we want to outbid the Mets for a soon to be 38 year old player?

And if not healthy, why do we want him?

Just looking at the facts, Carlos Delgado isn't going to be an Oriole IMO.
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He's not my first choice, but if the O's and Mets do want him, whoever puts the best contract on the table will likely get him, that can be the O's. He might also prefer to play in the AL and a better HR park. DHing some will be good for him.
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Delgado may turn out to be healthy enough to hit and healthy enough play 1b every once in a while but he is more valuable in the AL with the DH where he can split time at 1B/DH then in the NL were he has to play the field to be any more then a pinch hitter.

The Mets sound like they are ready to spend and Lackey, Holliday and Bay will be high on their list. Delgado will probably not be a priority for them.
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I've been seeing Delgado's name on here a lot, but why do people think we'll sign him?

For one the Mets are going to monitor his Winter League performance just like the Orioles, and if healthy, why wouldn't he go back to the Mets? Do we think we can actually outbid the Mets and do we want to outbid the Mets for a soon to be 38 year old player?

And if not healthy, why do we want him?

Just looking at the facts, Carlos Delgado isn't going to be an Oriole IMO.
What exactly have the Mets done lately? They play in a pitchers park and they don't have a winning team. Hell they are the 3rd best team in their division and they are not close to the top 2. We can offer money and the DH, which shouldn't be overlooked for a 37 year old coming off of hip surgery. We have as good a chance to sign him as the Mets. And I sure as hell want him.
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I've been seeing Delgado's name on here a lot, but why do people think we'll sign him?

For one the Mets are going to monitor his Winter League performance just like the Orioles, and if healthy, why wouldn't he go back to the Mets? Do we think we can actually outbid the Mets and do we want to outbid the Mets for a soon to be 38 year old player?

And if not healthy, why do we want him?

Just looking at the facts, Carlos Delgado isn't going to be an Oriole IMO.
Can't that be said with all the big name free agents that you want Andy to sign? Wouldn't they rather go to teams with a better chance of contending? Would we have to grossly overpay for someone to play here? I guess we'll all find out over the next few months.
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What exactly have the Mets done lately? They play in a pitchers park and they don't have a winning team. Hell they are the 3rd best team in their division and they are not close to the top 2. We can offer money and the DH, which shouldn't be overlooked for a 37 year old coming off of hip surgery. We have as good a chance to sign him as the Mets. And I sure as hell want him.
They have had a winning record in four of the last five years and eight of the last twelve years including three playoff appearances. The Orioles? Well, we all know how that tune goes.
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Odds are less than 50/50 Delgado will be an Oriole. The same is true for every other FA out there. But at the end of the day, we're going to sign a corner infielder or two - MacPhail has made that clear. That's where Delgado plays. So, he's about as likely as any other.
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Odds are less than 50/50 Delgado will be an Oriole. The same is true for every other FA out there. But at the end of the day, we're going to sign a corner infielder or two - MacPhail has made that clear. That's where Delgado plays. So, he's about as likely as any other.
I think it's more likely that, of the two, he signs a third baseman. Luke Scott at first base is a better placeholder/fall back position than Ty Wigginton at third base.
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See my response in the "Adrian Gonzalez-what's it gonna take?" thread.

There's about as much info out there linking us to Delgado as there is to Gonzalez, yet apparently there's no way Delgado winds up an Oriole. But apparently a possibility exists that we can land Gonzalez.
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I've been seeing Delgado's name on here a lot, but why do people think we'll sign him?

For one the Mets are going to monitor his Winter League performance just like the Orioles, and if healthy, why wouldn't he go back to the Mets? Do we think we can actually outbid the Mets and do we want to outbid the Mets for a soon to be 38 year old player?

And if not healthy, why do we want him?

Just looking at the facts, Carlos Delgado isn't going to be an Oriole IMO.
"Why would he sign with the Orioles?" is a question better asked of the premium FAs you want the Orioles to chase. Unless Delgado is especially attached to NYC and/or the Mets, and barring a multi-year contract elsewhere, I imagine he'll go to the highest bidder in a one-year deal, which is the only offer I would make.

I don't have any interest if he is not healthy, but if he is, I would have no problem outbidding the Mets by a million or so. He's a good fit. He had 100 HRs in 2006 through 08, and although he won't last forever, I think he would be good for an .850 OPS and 25-30 HRs.

You could hardly expect to find a better stopgap for Snyder. And if Snyder tears up Norfolk in the first half, Delgado could probably bring back some value at the deadline.

If he's healthy, I expect the Orioles to go after him.
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See my response in the "Adrian Gonzalez-what's it gonna take?" thread.

There's about as much info out there linking us to Delgado as there is to Gonzalez, yet apparently there's no way Delgado winds up an Oriole. But apparently a possibility exists that we can land Gonzalez.
The difference is that Delgado has control over where he wants to play, and I doubt he'd want to go to a losing team.

The Orioles however could blow away SD for Gonzalez who has no say over where he'd play if he's traded.

Frankly I think the chances are greater that the Orioles would trade for Gonzalez than a healthy Delgado signing with the Orioles over the Mets.
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They have had a winning record in four of the last five years and eight of the last twelve years including three playoff appearances. The Orioles? Well, we all know how that tune goes.
Yes but the perception is they are a team going down and the O's are a team on the rise. Bottom line is I think we have as good or better a chance to sign him.
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"Why would he sign with the Orioles?" is a question better asked of the premium FAs you want the Orioles to chase. Unless Delgado is especially attached to NYC and/or the Mets, and barring a multi-year contract elsewhere, I imagine he'll go to the highest bidder in a one-year deal, which is the only offer I would make.

I don't have any interest if he is not healthy, but if he is, I would have no problem outbidding the Mets by a million or so. He's a good fit. He had 100 HRs in 2006 through 08, and although he won't last forever, I think he would be good for an .850 OPS and 25-30 HRs.

You could hardly expect to find a better stopgap for Snyder. And if Snyder tears up Norfolk in the first half, Delgado could probably bring back some value at the deadline.

If he's healthy, I expect the Orioles to go after him.
Exactly. It is beyond ridiculous for someone constantly talks about signing Holliday and premium guys to have this position.
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The difference is that Delgado has control over where he wants to play, and I doubt he'd want to go to a losing team.

The Orioles however could blow away SD for Gonzalez who has no say over where he'd play if he's traded.

Frankly I think the chances are greater that the Orioles would trade for Gonzalez than a healthy Delgado signing with the Orioles over the Mets.
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Exactly. It is beyond ridiculous for someone constantly talks about signing Holliday and premium guys to have this position.
Well I guess I need to point out this thread.

If you notice, I don't have MacPhail signing any premium FAs nor Delgado.

However I see Delgado's name mentioned in several posts.

What I want the Orioles to do and what I think they'll do are two different things...

IMO people thinking that we'll even land Delgado this offseason are going to be disappointed.
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