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Old 03-09-2010, 10:59 AM
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Joe Nathan likely out for season

He has a torn ligament in his elbow according to Olney.

What a terrible loss for Minnesota, especially when you consider the amount of money he makes in relation to their payroll.

If I am Minnesota, I am bringing in Smoltz on a cheap, incentive laden contract and make him the closer.

He looked out of the pen last year at the end of the year and if he still wants to pitch, I bet Minnesota would be enticing to him.

Bring him into camp and see what he has. For 50-70 innings I bet he could be very good still.
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:03 AM
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The only guy they have that might be able to close is Rauch. I think it's fairly evident if they want to compete that they will have to look elsewhere.
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Think of the closer position what you will, but this is a truly devastating blow for the Twins.
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:14 AM
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Think of the closer position what you will, but this is a truly devastating blow for the Twins.
Closers are important for contending teams.

The talk is Rauch or maybe Guerrier...But that weakens the pen of course.

That is why signing a guy like Smoltz may be a good idea...at the very least, bring him into camp and see what he has.
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Wow, really tough loss for the Twins.
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:23 AM
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Paying him just over 11 million this year to do nothing is a terrible loss for the Twins...and he is owed the same money the following year, when he probably won't be 100% for a while..if at all.
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Prior to this PECOTA had the Twins winning the Central at 81-81. They now have to be, what, about a 77-78 win team? Somebody will probably overshoot their projections and win 85-90, but this could be the year we see a 78-win team in the playoffs.

The O's would probably be the favorite in the Central.
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Prior to this PECOTA had the Twins winning the Central at 81-81. They now have to be, what, about a 77-78 win team? Somebody will probably overshoot their projections and win 85-90, but this could be the year we see a 78-win team in the playoffs.

The O's would probably be the favorite in the Central.
I feel like the White Sox starting staff should be good enough to get them above .500
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Prior to this PECOTA had the Twins winning the Central at 81-81. They now have to be, what, about a 77-78 win team? Somebody will probably overshoot their projections and win 85-90, but this could be the year we see a 78-win team in the playoffs.

The O's would probably be the favorite in the Central.
Surprised to see the Twins projection at that few wins, although their overall roster is far from intimidating.

Mauer playing by himself should be able to get what, 55-60 wins in that division, so you'd figure adding in a few more fielders and some pitchers and they'd be projected to at least go .500.
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I feel like the White Sox starting staff should be good enough to get them above .500
They have the White Sox at 80-82 so there is a pretty good chance they're over .500. Personally I think the Royals will wind up worse than 74-88 and the top central teams will pull a few more wins from them. I don't think the Indians are going to win 79 games, either.
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Prior to this PECOTA had the Twins winning the Central at 81-81. They now have to be, what, about a 77-78 win team? Somebody will probably overshoot their projections and win 85-90, but this could be the year we see a 78-win team in the playoffs.

The O's would probably be the favorite in the Central.
Didn't the NL West winner have a below .500 record not too long ago?

Or am I misremembering?

Edit: 2005 Pads won with a 82-80 record. That's the worst I can find.
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Didn't the NL West winner have a below .500 record not too long ago?

Or am I misremembering?
I think you're misremembering b/c I don't think any playoff team has ever been below .500.
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Paying him just over 11 million this year to do nothing is a terrible loss for the Twins...and he is owed the same money the following year, when he probably won't be 100% for a while..if at all.
It is a terrible lost for the Twins on the field, but salary wise this is probably covered in insurance.
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Edit: 2005 Pads won with a 82-80 record. That's the worst I can find.
Yeah, I remember alot of concern that a playoff team was going to have a losing record. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing a balanced schedule and the 4 best teams making the playoffs.
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It is a terrible lost for the Twins on the field, but salary wise this is probably covered in insurance.
I think that catastrophic injury insurance for MLB players is much less common and harder to obtain than it used to be.
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