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El Gordo

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  1. 24 minutes ago, Sessh said:

    According to the Congressional Subcommittee's findings, the rates of use were at alarming levels in all sports. Tom House's candid statements indicate that most of the league was on PEDs including anabolic steroids in the 60's. There's plenty of guys that came out and said how rampant amphetamine use was as well. Why would you say drastically higher? Is it because the results were better? I tend to believe usage rates were roughly the same through all these years with the drugs being better producing more drastic results and giving the illusion that usage rates were higher.

    Do you have any data, links, etc. to back up these suppositions?

  2. 12 minutes ago, Maverick Hiker said:

    Perhaps not but at age 39 some deterioration has usually set in for MLB players, if you look at the whole history of the sport. Also how do you explain Davey Johnson going from 10 HR per year to over 40 when he went to the Braves and played with Aaron in 1973?

    Aaron hit 20 the next year, followed by 12. then 10 so he tailed off his last three years. He never had a big spike like Johnson, or Brady did. They may well have juiced but I doubt Aaron did.

  3. 3 hours ago, Maverick Hiker said:

    I have never thought players in the early 70's could've been on steroids. And I can recall well those times and those players, I followed MLB closely as a teenager. 

    However some of the comments on this forum have made me start to question my long held beliefs that steroid usage didn't start until the late 90's.

    Hank Aaron hit 40 HR and .301 in 1973 for the Braves, at age 39.  That same year Davey Johnson was traded from the Orioles to the Braves. Davey had never hit more than 14 HR for the Orioles, and he averaged about 10 HR per year. So he goes to Atlanta in 1973 and hits 43 HR. Darrell Evans also hit 41 HR for the Braves in 1973.

    Could it've been the smaller park helped Davey Johnson and the others? Or was there something else going on in Atlanta in 1973?  I guess we'll never know now. 






    Steroids started with the Russian weightlifters in the late 40's early 50's. They pretty much followed weight training from sport to sport. When baseball started weight training in the early 70's steroids went along. Hank averaged 36 HR a year and rarely hit more Than 40 I doubt he ever used PED's except for greenies.

  4. 14 minutes ago, Maverick Hiker said:

    Yeah. Nobody is going to convince me that HGH does not increase players strength, bat speed, power, average, and velocity for pitchers.

    As for the players build it's not as obvious as the Bonds McGwire years but some of these players today still seem like they have unnatural muscle growth.

    Right and climate change is a Chinese hoax. 

    Growth hormones don't make you stronger: study 


  5. 14 hours ago, Maverick Hiker said:

    Hmm interesting. Still, I tend to believe that steroids and HGH would help a player more than amphetamines. One can find a study to back up almost anything that has a grain of truth to it.

     Plus, my mind is made up on this issue, and reading studies that go against what I believe  will only cause  me to have cognitive dissonance.

    Rather than belief why not base your ideas on research and facts? My research has informed me that the primary benefit of PED;s is to increase the speed of workout recovery time and thus allowing the athlete to maintain a level of peak performance over an extended period of time. They do not increase maximum strength more than normal weight training.

  6. 4 hours ago, interloper said:

    He's probably a AAAA type of guy like Ynoa who will have his good starts and his clunkers.

    Here's how I remember how to spell Wojciechowski (no snark, this is just a simple trick that works for my brain):

    1. Woj

    2. Cie

    3. Chowski

    That way you just have to memorize 3 small chunks.

    Phonetically: Voy jee hof ski

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  7. 1 hour ago, atomic said:

    Yeah front-office experience.  Making trades, signing players to contracts, stocking farm system with guys who can help the big club if necessary. Analytics.  Being in charge of the people who do player development and scouting.  She had a better resume clearly. 

    Probably why the team is so terrible this year is Elias is learning on the job.  He forgot that the teams needs guys at triple A that can help the team during the year.  

    Hard to get a job in MLB as GM if you are a minority or a woman.   


    The team is no worse than it was last year.  25 W's on this date in 2018. It is a lot cheaper.

  8. 35 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

    I just don't understand who'd give up good prospects for what we have.

    When you have no expectations you have no disappointments. I can live with or without Mancini Cashner or Villar. Nothing matters before 2022 except MiL development.

  9. W

    Just now, Moose Milligan said:

    Anyone here preparing for disappointment?  Or are you all thinking we're gonna get a haul for Bundy and Cashner?

    With this team? How much more disappointment could there be?

  10. The parameters for the co efficient of restitution of the MLB ball, allow for a variation in flight of up to 10 feet or more. So they can change the ball to increase or decrease the number of HR and still say the ball is the same. They've been doing this for years. Steroids? We don't need no stinkin' steroids!

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  11. 34 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

    Mancini has actually improved while playing RF this year. He's been just -2 OOA and -2% catch added (his rookie year he was -3 and last year was -5 catch % added), which is the same as Santander (in much less time out there) and Wilkerson. Dwight Smith Jr. has put up a -7 OOA.

    So while Mancini is not a plus defender out there, he not so bad where he kills a team in RF. His route running is solid average and his jumps have actually improved to 0.3 (0.0 is MLB average). His problem is he has poor burst speed (-2.0) but that has improved from -3.1 his rookie year and -2.7 last year. His -1 OAA on 2-star catches is in the 47.6 percentile in baseball which makes him a slightly below average outfielder on routine catches.

    In other words, Mancini has actually improved defensively since moving out there and although I would still prefer him at 1B, he's not so bad in RF that it hurts his value, unless of course you want use the severely flawwed dWAR metric to define his worth. BTW, I don't think any teams uses dWar any longer now that the statcast information truly measures defensive ability in outfield.

    I totally agree. He's not great but he's no Trumbo in RF.

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