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Would you have matched SEA offer to keep Cruz an Oriole?

Would you have matched 4y/$57M for Cruz?  

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  1. 1. Would you have matched 4y/$57M for Cruz?

    • Yes, that's reasonable
      42
    • No, let the Mariners have him.
      118


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18 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

Can he get to 500 HRs?

 If he hits 30 a year for three more years maybe. But that would mean playing when you’re 44 years old.

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4 hours ago, Philip said:

That means a whole lot. Barry Bonds is a jerk, and I wouldn’t vote for him if you put a gun to my head. But Cruz is by all accounts a great guy, plus he admitted his use and put it behind him.

So I do expect to get some votes, but I don’t think he’ll get in Unless he has a really outstanding next three years.

I don't understand what that has to do with what Bonds did between the lines. Who cares that he wasn't liked by the media.

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I'm getting disillusioned by this board. Beating dead horse after dead horse after dead horse. I need a f-ing break. See y'all maybe when an actual Game Thread is active.

 

Probably post a song every now and again, because... MUSIC! IMPORTANT stuff.

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4 hours ago, scOtt said:

REALLY???? You bumped the Nelson f-ing Cruz thread????

:ohlord:

I would normally agree.

Not like we have real baseball to discuss.

Amazing how easy it is to play monday morning quarterback and said, well, we should have done. :)

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13 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

He's the type of guy that the right veteran's committee would put in.  (If he goes strong for a few more years).

Definition: played MLB for parts of 10+ seasons, and a creative writer can come up with some kind of story about them that sounds superficially good. 

Jack Morris got in because he was arguably the best starting pitcher between Nolan Ryan and Roger Clemens (yes, they overlapped, shhh).  Jim Rice got in because he was the most feared hitter in baseball among Fenway sportswriters.  Harold Baines got in because everyone (except some other people) with 2866 hits is in.

So, sure, 40 wins and leading the majors in homers in the 2010s could get him a plaque.  I don't even think you need the "goes strong for a few more years" qualifier. He's already better than Baines, and nobody cares about PEDs if you're nice.  Only bitter, vindictive PEDs count against you.

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13 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Definition: played MLB for parts of 10+ seasons, and a creative writer can come up with some kind of story about them that sounds superficially good. 

Jack Morris got in because he was arguably the best starting pitcher between Nolan Ryan and Roger Clemens (yes, they overlapped, shhh).  Jim Rice got in because he was the most feared hitter in baseball among Fenway sportswriters.  Harold Baines got in because everyone (except some other people) with 2866 hits is in.

So, sure, 40 wins and leading the majors in homers in the 2010s could get him a plaque.  I don't even think you need the "goes strong for a few more years" qualifier. He's already better than Baines, and nobody cares about PEDs if you're nice.  Only bitter, vindictive PEDs count against you.

It helped Morris, that he had a reputation for a lethal arm in post season.

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2 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

It helped Morris, that he had a reputation for a lethal arm in post season.

Sure.  So did Orel Hershiser and 50 other guys.

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6 hours ago, Riggodrill44 said:

I don't understand what that has to do with what Bonds did between the lines. Who cares that he wasn't liked by the media.

It’s human nature. Some people want the whole package and some people don’t care. If someone is a repellent jerk they will lose some votes. I think that’s probably what has kept Schilling out so far.

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2 minutes ago, Philip said:

It’s human nature. Some people want the whole package and some people don’t care. If someone is a repellent jerk they will lose some votes. I think that’s probably what has kept Schilling out so far.

Which is why I dislike the HOF process.

Sport Writers, some of which are incredible arses, having the power to keep people in or out.

Some of which know less about baseball than OH trolls.

Sometimes voting no, just so it would not be 100%

 

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21 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

It helped Morris, that he had a reputation for a lethal arm in post season.

He sure did! 3.80 ERA in the postseason, compared to 3.90 in the regular season. Clutch!

The Blue Jays were lucky to win the WS the year after his legendary Twins performance, with Morris having a 6.57 ERA in the ALCS and 8.44 in the WS.

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2 minutes ago, makoman said:

He sure did! 3.80 ERA in the postseason, compared to 3.90 in the regular season. Clutch!

The Blue Jays were lucky to win the WS the year after his legendary Twins performance, with Morris having a 6.57 ERA in the ALCS and 8.44 in the WS.

Yea, that reputation was mostly because of one start.

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50 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

It helped Morris, that he had a reputation for a lethal arm in post season.

Morris was very good for about 10-12 years. It helped that he won WS with the Tigers, Twins and Blue Jays. One could argue that he was a difference maker with all of them.

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25 minutes ago, makoman said:

He sure did! 3.80 ERA in the postseason, compared to 3.90 in the regular season. Clutch!

The Blue Jays were lucky to win the WS the year after his legendary Twins performance, with Morris having a 6.57 ERA in the ALCS and 8.44 in the WS.

I said he has a reputation.

He also got the $$$$, based on his rep and success in the post season.

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Morris was the highest-paid pitcher in the American League on at least four occasions: 1987, 1988, 1991, and 1993.

 

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