Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
wildcard

The O's should go for it

Recommended Posts

There is no going for it.  They're very obviously not going to sacrifice even the smallest asset for more wins this year.  And they'll trade whomever brings back a decent return. 

They currently have somewhere between a 0.1% and 0.3% chance of winning the Series.  Sacrificing anything to slightly move that needle is crack smoking craziness.  And there's nothing even halfway rational they could do that would move it more than slightly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
40 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

IMO, the worst thing is being outside of the playoffs but not picking in the top 5.  Either you're contending or you're reloading, anything else in between is a waste.

Unfortunately that’s our most likely landing spot at this time.    Has it been made clear that the 2021 draft order will be based solely on where teams finish in the 2020 standings?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm fine for trading for a long-term piece, but definitely nothing that is a rental. We should be looking to trade everyone that is a FA at the end of this year and next. I would be thrilled if we could trade an OF prospect along with Cobb for a SS, 3B, or SP prospect?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, DrungoHazewood said:

There is no going for it.  They're very obviously not going to sacrifice even the smallest asset for more wins this year.  And they'll trade whomever brings back a decent return. 

They currently have somewhere between a 0.1% and 0.3% chance of winning the Series.  Sacrificing anything to slightly move that needle is crack smoking craziness.  And there's nothing even halfway rational they could do that would move it more than slightly.

Going for it with this bunch is doing nothing. 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Unfortunately that’s our most likely landing spot at this time.    Has it been made clear that the 2021 draft order will be based solely on where teams finish in the 2020 standings?

I agree that it's our most likely landing spot.  Not sure what the 2021 draft order will be.  

Even if we were to get in on an 8th seed, it's still fun.  It's still something that the younger guys on the team can feel good about, playing meaningful baseball into September and having it pay off.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Unfortunately that’s our most likely landing spot at this time.    Has it been made clear that the 2021 draft order will be based solely on where teams finish in the 2020 standings?

Depends on how the Red Sox finish the season.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Really comes down to in no order dealing 

Cobb

Givens 

Castro 

Armstrong 

Milone 

I don’t see any position players leaving and rest of pen/rotation it would be hard to see a deal based on lack of resume/youth etc. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Depends on how the Red Sox finish the season.

Thing is in a short season it really promotes tanking. No fans and once you fall out if it just ditch everyone. Not like you played 90-100 games to get to this point. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Depends on how the Red Sox finish the season.

I assume they have zero issues tanking the rest of the way for the draft pick, since they know with their resources they could win the Series next year.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Apparently Manfred said that if less than half a Normal season is played, they may not use this years record as the only way the draft is ordered.

Would they just combine 2019 and 2020 and slot them that way?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

Apparently Manfred said that if less than half a Normal season is played, they may not use this years record as the only way the draft is ordered.

Would they just combine 2019 and 2020 and slot them that way?

Here's hoping.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Apparently Manfred said that if less than half a Normal season is played, they may not use this years record as the only way the draft is ordered.

Would they just combine 2019 and 2020 and slot them that way?

I say 20% this year's record, 40% last year's, 20% reverse order of Nielsen Media Market size, and 20% reverse order of average household income of metro area.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

I say 20% this year's record, 40% last year's, 20% reverse order of Nielsen Media Market size, and 20% reverse order of average household income of metro area.

I’d be OK with alphabetical order by city.   That would put us at 3.    (Really 2, since “Arizona” is not a city.)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

Orioles Information


Orioles News and Information

Daily Organizational Boxscores
News

Tony's Takes

Orioles Roster Resource

Orioles Prospect Information

2020 Top 30 Prospects List

Prospect Scouting Reports

Statistics

2020 Orioles Stats

2019 Orioles Minor League Stats

Baseball Savant Stats






  • Posts

    • What’s the corresponding move to activate Hays?  Looks like just a straight swap with McKenna is likely. Sulser, Lakins, or Tate, could be an option too. With playing in an NL for two games, and having two off days, we may elect to go with a bigger bench and drop an bullpen arm. 
    • The ball was in the shadows and dropped like 5 ft outside of the shadows in RF for a hit. I think Franco probably couldn’t see it and got a bad read. A tough L. 
    • Means Is only behind Glasnow in WAR, ahead of Cole and Bieber. Good company. I hope the breakout continues. 
    • Currently, the pitching staff is 14th in WAR (in the majors), 10th best in walk rate, 17th in total ERA and 7th in BP ERA. Nice numbers considering we apparently have the worst catchers in baseball.  I’m shocked that they could be this awful defensively, game calling, framing, etc...and yet we are finding some early success after building on last year, which wasn’t as bad as suspected. It’s almost as if the catchers defense can be overcome by other factors! (Or people are just clueless as to how to actually judge a C defense)
    • The issue is that you are intentionally taking the GMs statement that the Os are not measuring success by wins as meaning something else....that the Orioles are not trying to win games. And then extrapolating that into the Orioles are trying to lose games.    That simply isn’t what is going on. And I think you know that. I think in general folks are on board with the rebuild. We are also at the point where we are about as far from being competitive as we have been in a long time.      I don’t know how much the pandemic has effected the rebuild, but minor leagues have been shut down for a loooong time.  I can’t help but think it probably cost us a full year.    I don’t know if Hyde will be the manager in 2 months or 2 years.  I really don’t worry about that at all. Right now, I just want to see the Os get better and develop talent.    I would say this is the last year the Os can continue with a mindset of we are not measuring success with wins. I think it is likely that success next year will be marked by small improvement to something along the lines of 75-80 wins.    I am trying to enjoy the moments.    The moments Mancini reminds us of what he can be. The moments Mountcastle reminds us that he could be in the mix for ROY. The moments John Means looks like a real #1 or #2. And yes the moment we get to see AR, Diaz and others crack the lineup.    It’s not the same as fretting over when Hyde rests Santander or who he pitches in the 8th or 9th. But this ain’t Toronto and whether or not we use our historically good closer in the 6th, 11th or ever. Hyde is gonna learn or he won’t. In the end, of the GM gets the talent part, getting someone to manage will be a breeze. 
    • Personally, I'm surprised Sisco didn't get charged with a PB.  He has looked bad this year.
    • Yea, to think some people actually bought the idea that no outside food had to do with covid.
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...