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    • Alberto will make the most of those arbitration eligible guys at maybe $3 million next year. Those other guys made $10+ million. Nunez and Valaika could be non-tendered, but not because of their exorbitant salaries. I don't think Armstrong will get non-tendered because he might make $800K rather than $600K. Santander, Severino and Alberto aren't getting non-tendered this year and none of them have enough surplus value to merit trading. Maybe Santander if he has a great 2021 is a trade chip, but he needs to show it for a full season to be a valuable trade chip. Trading Alberto or Severino would just be shuffling deck chairs and my guess is it would look bad if they traded EVERYONE that made over the minimum. Cobb could be traded but they probably get a better return at the trade deadline, and my guess is that they would end up having to pick up the same amount of salary if they traded him in July as they would if they traded him in the offseason.
    • o   Between 1954 and 1957, each of the MVO's for those seasons are not in the Orioles Hall-of-Fame ...... they are Chuck Diering (1954), Dave Philley (1955), Bob Nieman (1956), and Billy Gardner (1957.)   The other MVO's since then whom are not in the Orioles Hall-of-Fame are Don Aase (1986), Larry Sheets (1987), Mike Devereaux (1992), Rafael Palmeiro (1995, 1996, and 1998), Randy Myers (1997), Delino DeShields Sr. (2000), Jeff Conine (2001), Rodrigo Lopez (2002), Jay Gibbons (2003), Miguel Tejada (2004 and 2006), Aubrey Huff (2008), Luke Scott (2010), and Nelson Cruz (2014.)   More recent MVO's whom are not yet in the Orioles Hall-of-Fame but who may be inducted in the future upon eligibility are Nick Markakis (2007), Adam Jones (2011, 2012, and 2018), Chris Davis (2013 and 2015), Manny Machado (2016), Jonathan Schoop (2017), Trey Mancini (2019), and Anthony Santander (2020) ...... Nelson Cruz was only with the Orioles for one season (2014), but oh what a season it was (both for Cruz individually, and for the Orioles as a team.)     M.V.O. ) (1954 - Present)   1954 – Chuck Diering 1955 – Dave Philley 1956 – Bob Nieman 1957 – Billy Gardner 1958 – Gus Triandos 1959 – Gene Woodling 1960 – Brooks Robinson 1961 – Jim Gentile 1962 – Brooks Robinson 1963 – Stu Miller 1964 – Brooks Robinson 1965 – Stu Miller 1966 – Frank Robinson 1967 – Frank Robinson 1968 – Dave McNally 1969 – Boog Powell 1970 – Boog Powell 1971 – Brooks Robinson, Frank Robinson 1972 – Jim Palmer 1973 – Jim Palmer 1974 – Paul Blair, Mike Cuellar 1975 – Ken Singleton 1976 – Lee May 1977 – Ken Singleton 1978 – Eddie Murray 1979 – Ken Singleton 1980 – Al Bumbry 1981 – Eddie Murray 1982 – Eddie Murray 1983 – Eddie Murray, Cal Ripken Jr. 1984 – Eddie Murray 1985 – Eddie Murray 1986 – Don Aase 1987 – Larry Sheets 1988 – Eddie Murray, Cal Ripken Jr. 1989 – Gregg Olson 1990 – Cal Ripken Jr. 1991 – Cal Ripken Jr. 1992 – Mike Devereaux 1993 – Chris Hoiles 1994 – No Award Given 1995 – Rafael Palmeiro 1996 – Rafael Palmeiro 1997 – Randy Myers 1998 – Rafael Palmeiro 1999 – B.J. Surhoff 2000 – Delino DeShields Sr. 2001 – Jeff Conine 2002 – Rodrigo Lopez 2003 – Jay Gibbons 2004 – Miguel Tejada 2005 – Brian Roberts 2006 – Miguel Tedada 2007 – Nick Markakis 2008 – Aubrey Huff 2009 – Brian Roberts 2010 – Luke Scott 2011 – Adam Jones 2012 – Adam Jones 2013 – Chris Davis 2014 – Nelson Cruz 2015 – Chris Davis 2016 – Manny Machado 2017 – Jonathan Schoop 2018 – Adam Jones 2019 - Trey Mancini 2020 - Anthony Santander   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Baltimore_Orioles_awards#Most_Vaulable_Oriole   https://www.mlb.com/orioles/history/orioles-hall-of-fame   o
    • I have thought Iglesias could be a prime trade target.  It could come this offseason or perhaps we (and an acquiring team) would want to see him off to a good start offensively - even 775 OPS should generate a quality return.  Depending on how Iggy is doing would impact the prospect I want back.  Top 15ish sounds about right, but maybe more if Iggy does well in April and May ahead of a deal. Iggy should have won the MVP.  Crazy to lineup Mountcastle's stats with Santander's and give it to Santander.  Anyone voting for Alberto, Nunez or Severino in their top 3 should be disqualified from ever watching baseball again.
    • Elias has made moves to save money.  Traded Villar, Bundy, Cashner.  This off season Cobb is in the last year of his contract.   Alberto has his 2nd salary arbitration year. Santander, Severino, Armstrong, Valaika and Nunez are all arbitration eligible for the first time. Will Elias make moves to keep the team cheap?
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