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    Man you needs to chill out, have a cuppa Joe and rethink your future :scratchchinhmm:. Get on the Frobby train, succumb to wildcard's desires and pump you up! Demolition is the good news! I do feel your pain but I love the bright side of the road...:hearts:
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    The DH is actually optional. If Baumgarner can convince his manager to let him bat for himself, he can. But if he does, I think that the team forfeits the use of the DH for the entire game ...... so if Bumgarner hits for himself but gets knocked out of the box early in the game, the team has to continue to let the pitcher bat for himself in the lineup for the remainder of the game. I actually remember when Catfish Hunter batted for himself in a game against the Orioles in 1976. It was an unorthodox move. And not to be outdone, Earl Weaver (in a behavior that was even more unorthodox than Billy Martin having his pitcher hit for himself in the first place) actually argued against it! http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BAL/BAL197609050.shtml My brother Mark (Yankee fan) said an encouraging, "Hey" when he saw that Hunter actually made contact, albeit on a groundball out. The game was televised on WPIX-11 up here. I was 10 and-a-half years old.
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    2016 Orioles Opening Day Payroll This is the opening day Orioles team payroll for the "active" (25 Man) roster and includes the 3 players on the 15 day disabled list. The O's will have pay obligations for players on the 40 man roster and any non-roster players signed to major or minor league contracts. All of the latest transactions are included and salary figures were obtained from the Cots Baseball Prospectus Compensation Website. Salaries are displayed as rounded to the nearest $10k, and the total payroll is accurate to 2 decimal places. I provide this information so that we can make accurate and useful comparisons to the opening day payrolls of the Orioles in previous years, other MLB teams and the total for Major League Baseball. As with virtually all team opening day payroll tabulations on the web, my total payroll figure does not reflect any deductions for deferred salaries or additions for set-asides for deferrals from the previous year (as required by the MLBPA). However, I have noted the contract deferrals in the right-most column of the below chart. The Orioles opening day team payroll is $148.57M. That exceeds last year's figure by 24.8% and is the largest increase during Dan Duquette's tenure. It is also the 4th consecutive annual increase and represents a gain of 68.8% since he assumed his duties in November, 2011. [TABLE=width: 500, align: left] <tbody>[TR] [TD]PLAYER [/TD] [TD=align: center]POSITION[/TD] [TD=align: right] 2016 SALARY [/TD] [TD=align: right]DEFERRED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: right] ($ Million) [/TD] [TD=align: right]($ Million)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Caleb Joseph[/TD] [TD=align: center]C[/TD] [TD=align: right]$0.52[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Matt Wieters[/TD] [TD=align: center]C[/TD] [TD=align: right]$15.80[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Chris Davis[/TD] [TD=align: center]1B[/TD] [TD=align: right]$23.00[/TD] [TD=align: right]$6.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Jonathan Schoop[/TD] [TD=align: center]2B[/TD] [TD=align: right]$0.52[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]J.J. Hardy[/TD] [TD=align: center]SS[/TD] [TD=align: right]$12.50[/TD] [TD=align: right]$2.17[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Manny Machado[/TD] [TD=align: center]3B[/TD] [TD=align: right]$5.00[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Adam Jones[/TD] [TD=align: center]OF[/TD] [TD=align: right]$16.33[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Joey Rickard[/TD] [TD=align: center]OF[/TD] [TD=align: right]$0.51[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Mark Trumbo[/TD] [TD=align: center]OF[/TD] [TD=align: right]$9.15[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Nolan Reimold[/TD] [TD=align: center]OF[/TD] [TD=align: right]$1.30[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Hyun Soo Kim[/TD] [TD=align: center]OF[/TD] [TD=align: right]$2.80[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Pedro Alvarez[/TD] [TD=align: center]DH[/TD] [TD=align: right]$5.75[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Jimmy Paredes (15 Day DL)[/TD] [TD=align: center]DH[/TD] [TD=align: right]$0.52[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Ryan Flaherty[/TD] [TD=align: center]UT[/TD] [TD=align: right]$1.50[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Chris Tillman[/TD] [TD=align: center]SP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$6.23[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Yovani Gallardo[/TD] [TD=align: center]SP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$9.00[/TD] [TD=align: right]$2.50[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Kevin Gausman (15 Day DL)[/TD] [TD=align: center]SP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$0.53[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Ubaldo Jimenez[/TD] [TD=align: center]SP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$13.00[/TD] [TD=align: right]$2.25[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Mike Wright[/TD] [TD=align: center]SP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$0.51[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Tyler Wilson[/TD] [TD=align: center]SP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$0.51[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Zach Britton[/TD] [TD=align: center]RP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$6.75[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Darren O'Day[/TD] [TD=align: center]RP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$6.00[/TD] [TD=align: right]$1.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Brad Brach[/TD] [TD=align: center]RP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$1.25[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Mychal Givens[/TD] [TD=align: center]RP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$0.51[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Brian Matusz (15 Day DL)[/TD] [TD=align: center]RP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$3.90[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Dylan Bundy[/TD] [TD=align: center]RP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$1.80 [/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Vance Worley[/TD] [TD=align: center]RP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$2.60[/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]TJ McFarland[/TD] [TD=align: center]RP[/TD] [TD=align: right]$0.52 [/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [TD=align: right][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Total[/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: right]$148.32 [/TD] [TD=align: right]$13.92[/TD] [/TR] </tbody>[/TABLE]
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    I've got to admit when I heard this morning that Chris Davis had agreed to a 7 year - 161 million contract to stay with the Orioles my first reaction was, "Way too much!" My second reaction was, "Boros won again!" The sad part at no point did I go, "That's the final piece the Orioles needed to become a true World Series contender for next year!" Thankfully this winter is not over yet but it's hard to imagine an Angelos-run Orioles making anymore major splashes after giving out the largest contract in team history. The Orioles finished in 3rd place last year with a .500 record and besides signing a 28-year old, 6-foot-2, 247 pound Korean outfielder (Hyun Soo Kim) who's never played anywhere but the Korean Baseball Organization (KBO), all they've really done is paid three players who were on the .500 team last year more money. Oh, and they lost their top starting pitcher in Wei-Yin Chen. Don't worry though, they've brought in Vince Worley to "compete" for a rotation spot. Regardless, let's look at the Davis as a player. There is little doubt he's a premiere power hitter who brings game changing power to the lineup. But he's also a guy who was basically an albatross in the lineup for all of 2014 (.196/.300/.404/.704 with 173 in 525 PAs) and was hitting .220/.311/.449/.761 with 89 Ks in 279 PAs on June 20th last year. That 808 PAs in which he struck out 262 times and put up an OPS around .730) From June 21st to the end of the season last year Davis hit an other worldly (.291/.395/.641/1.036 in 397 PAs) to give him his great numbers at the end of the season. Despite the fact that he hit like Chris Carter (Who signed for $3 million for one season) for over 800 PAs prior, he was able to get Angelos to spend $23 million a season for seven seasons for a 30-37 year old version of himself. Looking at his most similar hitters at the same age, his top four comps are Richie Sexon, Cecil Fielder, Mark McGwire, and Glen Davis. Sexon had two successful season at 30-31 and then hit .211/.306/.392/.698 the next two seasons and was out of baseball at the age of 34. Fielder hit well for three seasons from 30-32 (.251/.345/.485/.831) before slashing (.246/.340/.405/.745) at 33-34, and was out of baseball by 35. We all know about McGwire being PED induced. As most Orioles fans with a little age on them remember, Davis is the most cautionary tale. He hit just (.247/.312/.400/.713) from 30-32 and was out of baseball by 33. Lee May and Dave Kingman were the next two comps and are the only non-McGwire comp who played into their 36th birthday. May never put up an OPS over .800 again and hit (.259 /.301/.435/.736) between 30-36 years old while Kingman did a bit better (.244/.313/.480/.793) hitting more than 30 home runs in 4 of those 7 seasons. Now another comp is Mark Teixeira who overall was a much more consistent hitter than Davis before he hit 30 (.290/.378/.545/.923 vs .255/.330/.506/.835 for Davis). From 30-35, Teixiera slashed (.244/.341/.476/.817) while his average salary was $22.4 million a season. This is a contract most observers have called an albatross for the Yankees. Teixeira's numbers are probably Davis' most likely ceiling numbers through his 35th birthday. The Orioles will pay Davis $23 million a season. So if I can recap this deal, the Orioles are now paying Davis Teixiera money for seven years while hoping he out performs all of his comps of similar players through history. So although it will nice to watch those prestigious home runs and return a fan favorite to the Orioles clubhouse, the economics and commitment of this deal will make it very tough for Davis to fulfill the value. Let's not forget, in three more season Manny Machado will be a free agent unless the Orioels can extend him and I'm wondering if the Orioles will be able to afford two (possibly three if Adam Jones is resigned) $20 million plus players on their roster. Who knows, maybe Peter Angelos is going to actually start using that MASN money that we were promised would make a difference for the Orioles?
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    I posted this in another thread. A reality check. 1. Chris Tillman - 4.99 ERA last year. Numbers down across the board. A 4.55 ERA in the 2nd half, with a 5.73 ERA in August and a 6.51 ERA in Sept/Oct. shows that he never really turned it around. Still want to blame all that on a long honeymoon and not being in great shape in the spring? 2. Ubaldo Jimenez - Completely useless in 2014. Great start in 2014 BUT a 5.63 ERA in his last 15 starts or essentially the 2014 Ubaldo. 3. Miguel Gonzalez - Has pitched 171, 154, and 144 innings, respectively over the last 3 years. See a trend? Had some arm problems last year and never gets through a full season. The late bloomer turns 32 in May. Everyone expects a bounce back. Why? 4. Kevin Gausman - Showed very little progress last year although his strikeout to walk numbers were better. Still has not demonstrated a ML breaking ball that is a solid part of his repertoire. A candidate for a breakout but there have been very few signs of it. Pitched 134 innings last year and 158 in 2014. He also had some shoulder problems early last year and have never gone through a full ML season. 5. Vance Worley - Has never started more than 23 games in a season at the ML level in a single season. A very up and down guy who had a 7.21 ERA in 10 starts in his only time in the American League for the Twins. Was good in 2014 for the Pirates who decided to release him after the 2015 season. Depth - Tyler Wilson and Mike Wright - Most neutral observes see neither as a future ML starting pitcher. Sure, for 1-3 starts, no problem. For 20 starts or so, you are asking for big trouble. Future - Dylan Bundy - Since 2012, Dylan Bundy has thrown a total of 167 innings. Enough said. Huge question mark in health and he's even a question mark in performance. He's never dominated at AA, let alone AAA. Even at full health we don't know what we've got with him. Hunter Harvey - Has throw 113 innings since 2013 with ZERO innings throw in 2015. He's been shut down 2-3 times with a flexor mass strain or tight forearm. That's a common symptom to eventually needing TJ surgery. The Orioles, as always, have taken the cautious approach with rest and rehab. For the second spring in a row, Harvey says he feels great. Of course, he hasn't really been tested yet. All the odds point to a future TJ surgery and another 1 1/2 years missed. There are really no other legit blue chip starting prospects. Guys like Miranda, Lee, Hess, are all very fringy types as far as future ML starters go. The ML team has a shaky rotation with little depth. The minor league cupboard is tinkering on being completely bare. If 2016-2018 is our window, I'll take the door. Last edited by RZNJ; Today at 10:15 AM.
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    No, I have Tillman 1 and 2. I honestly forgot about Gonzalez.
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    Sorry you feel that way. Yea, I am snarky quite a bit, probably too much. I use the numbers and analysis as a baseline, and go from there. I think Gonzalez will/might bounce back because he pitched worse than the prior three years and had some injuries, he appears healthy and still has similar velocity and peripherals and players tend towards their career averages. You say "everything is a number" to me. You might have an interesting conversation with Stotle, who thinks I set aside rational analysis and fall back on rah-rah fandom when it comes to many Oriole issues. I'm going to try to avoid responding to the folks I see as repeatedly hammering away at the negative. It'll be better for me, for them, and probably the board in general.
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    When your on the field, in an Orioles uniform or doing something that represents the team, that is a workplace environment. These guys are highly paid professionals and there is no reason why the league or individual owners cannot have a policy on smoking, chewing tobacco etc. I work in hospitals, I can't chew at the nurses station or while talking to patients, if I choose to though, I can on my time. So the long and short of it is, your complaining about baseball players losing rights they only had by grace of their employers. Chewing tobacco while at work is not in the list of the Bill of Rights last I checked.
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    Sometimes you don't sound like you're kidding, you know, there's a lotta people around...
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    I wonder about you sometimes, Henry -- you might fold under questioning!
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    Calling someone with ADD who uses adderal an addict is foolish. You should be embarrassed by your assertions but you can't shame the shameless.
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    Then you aren't looking very hard. International signings, depth signings that help the club, value signings, rule 5 draft are definitely in DD's favor. MacPhail clearly was the better trader, but they were trading from two different places. It's a lot easier to trade valuable chips for a rebuilding team then trying to find those players that take you over the hump. Saying that, if Dr. Frankenstein could somehow combine the two we'd have the perfect GM.
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    Hey Weams, I posted that yesterday incorrectly. I counted Norris' relief appearances. They were actually 23-19 when Chen and Norris started. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    You have really taken being able to see the bad side of things up a notch. Next level stuff. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The performance of the starting pitchers will decide whether we are contenders in 2016 and beyond, without question. I don't think the picture is nearly as negative as portrayed in the OP, but I think we'll need more than our fair share of breaks. We undoubtedly need to add a starter before the offseason ends, and even then, it's likely to be a downgrade from Chen. You can color me worried, but not despondent. I think Tillman and Gonzalez will bounce back at least part of the way.
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    I don't see where that is necessarily a positive.
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    Pretty close. Oops! Already got credit from Paul. Thanks!
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    Glad I checked out this thread. I was happy for a minute and needed to be reminded that all is pointless and there is no point in getting excited about the ballclub.
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    First, he was a clubhouse cancer. Now he causes it. Can't wait to see what he signs with and for how much. A missed opportunity, IMO. The Davis contract is much better than I anticipated but everything is relative.
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    Slight correction, but we have the 69 pick no matter how free agency plays out. Currently we have the 53 pick and there are at least three guys with QOs, so there is potential for three in the top 50 and definitely four in the top 70. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    This whole thing is kind of hilarious. First, I love Davis but I don't love the contract. But the OH faithful never fails. I WANT A BIG PAYROLL! Happy now? NO ITS SPENT ON THE WRONG PLAYERS ANGELOS WILL NEVER SPEND OVER 100 MILLION ON A PLAYER!! Well, he just did. BUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON SOMEONE ELSE!
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    Considering how often posters want to front load contracts I for one am glad it did. Stuff like this raises the overall level of discourse.
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    He likes cigs and seafood. Earl would be proud. http://www.sportressofblogitude.com/2015/08/19/yoenis-cespedes-chain-smoking-seafood-eating-madman/
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    Watching pitchers bat is both boring and stressful (possible injury). Times change: women can vote, we have a black president and nobody falls for xenophobia or demagoguery in a presidential candidate..oh wait... Long overdue to eliminate pitchers from batting.
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    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/harper-mets-find-sign-yoenis-cespedes-article-1.2499299?cid=bitly From the article: "The Mets? front office according, to Harper, doesn?t think Cespedes is a ?bad guy,? but is someone who ?marches to his own drumbeat.? Among the gripes the Mets have are Cespedes not taking batting practice, not always hustling during games, and constantly smoking cigarettes between innings. They are also concerned with his willingness to play center field, which is really the only place he could play if he were to re?sign."
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    It could have been worse. He could have gone to a game without me.
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    Yes, but he has the deferred amount listed. So for Davis, he has 23 and 6. Then he has it in the totals. Just subtract the two to get the current estimated cash outlay. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The problem is that when the deferred money comes due, a lot of people will be considering that money as part of that year's payroll, as many posters did with Bonilla in the past, and with Vlad Guerrero for 2016-17.
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    Alex always makes it better. [video=youtube;yE2WjSmUcRA]
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    You misquoted Kruk ("Lady, I'm not an athlete. I'm a professional baseball player"). Cats are out of bags, not boxes. And right, it's not important to be athletic to be a center fielder, third baseman or catcher. You do realize the time of Steve Balboni is a bygone era, right? Obvious troll is obvious. Or very, very oblivious.
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    Christopher Meola, who broke the news of the Dodgers agreeing to a deal with Kenta Maeda on Thursday, reports that the deal is an eight-year pact worth $24 million plus incentives. According to Meola, the right-hander can earn an additional $10-12 million per season in incentives. It's certainly a creative way to structure the deal, as the Dodgers are only guaranteeing $3 million a year, limiting their overall risk. The 27-year-old hurler registered a 2.09 ERA, 1.01 WHIP and 175/41 K/BB ratio over 206 1/3 innings in his final season in Japan.
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    So we've signed Davis to a long-term commitment and we're stuck with him for 7 years, can't even trade him. If that's the way things are going, it looks unlikely we'll be able to keep Machado or Jones. Long term future beyond 2018 looks dark. Window seems open for another 3 years. Yet we currently still need COF help and SP. Badly. So at this point, why not sign Gallardo and Latos/Fister, and trade for Cargo? The pick won't be helping us in the next 2-3 years, and neither will Bundy or Harvey or Mancini. Then we can probably do a "controlled demolition" in 2018, either before or during that season depending on how things go. Cash out on Manny and maybe Jones, and try to deal anyone we can for prospects.
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    I love me some MacPhail. And I did then too. DD does a good job finding value on the edges- except when he doesn't, like last year. I really fail to see anything DD does better than AM though.
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    Folks looking for bounce back years out of Tillman & Gonzo need to factor in how much they will suffer from MW's pitch framing I think his lack of being able to frame a low strike will be a really big problem for Gausman & Britton. Not sure how we could have had a worse offseason. Now we have a bad team with multi year commitments to 30+ players (Davis, O'day, and Hardy) that will hamper the need for the team to re-build
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