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  1. 5 points
    Seriously. If "construction worker" was going to be used as some sort of racial shorthand or implication, it certainly would not be used to describe the white American player in contrast to the Hispanic player. This is so plainly not racial that it's almost painful to debate it. It is a flat comparison of two power-hitting RF/DH players who were available free agents at the same time. The clear message is that Trumbo is a stoic, understated, no-nonsense player who goes about his business quietly, without any fanfare and not making waves. Is anyone arguing with that characterization of Trumbo? The flip side of the message is that Bautista is not those things. Does anyone disagree that Bautista does not fit that description? You know who does fit that description, though? Frank Robinson. Brooks Robinson. Eddie Murray. Cal Ripken. Adam Jones. Buck Showalter. All among the most beloved people to ever don an Orioles uniform. Not because of their race or nationality -- because of their ability, of course, but also their attitude and approach to the game. The attitude that essentially defines the "Oriole Way." Jose Bautista is an obnoxious, confrontational, self-aggrandizing, attention-grabbing jerk. As a person. As an individual. Not as a racial symbol. Could anyone possibly suggest that he better fits the mold of the tradition the Orioles have created over decades in Baltimore? That his approach to the game more resembles the players and managers Orioles fans have most loved and rooted for than does Trumbo's? It was a poor choice of words to say "working class," which brings more issues of social strata into the context than necessary. But the point he was making was one about two individual players with entirely different approaches to the game. And if there's really any doubt about underlying implications about the Orioles or Duquette having a latent racial preference, just bear in mind that this very offseason, at the exact same time they were choosing Trumbo over Bautista, they let go of their smart, gritty, no-nonsense, team-first catcher. Who is white. And replaced him with a new catcher. Who isn't white -- but who does happen to be smart, gritty, no-nonsense, and team-first. So I suppose it is accurate to say that they have a preferred type of player. It just has nothing to do with race.
  2. 2 points
    No fans need to stop seeing racism every time DD makes a statement.
  3. 2 points
    Unfortunately many of us have a clear idea of what Duquette was saying, understand his impulse to avoid being carpingly literal every minute of the day and don't feel the need to identify racial connotations where overwhelming evidence indicates none exist.
  4. 2 points
    A normal bullpen guy isn't going to go much over 75 anyway. I don't see where 50 in year one should be a problem.
  5. 1 point
    o I sent them out today. You should get them Saturday or Monday. Go, Orioles. o
  6. 1 point
    I think there's the potential he could do so. He's certainly a first class person.
  7. 1 point
    Hitting better than Caleb last year is not the standard. That was unacceptable. But I have confidence that Caleb won't repeat that abysmal performance.
  8. 1 point
    But their bats are both good. Sisco is the OBP Kim type and Wynns is no slouch either
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    There is no better time to do it than March. It's an imperfect event, but there is no better way of doing it. I would try to find a way to encourage more starting pitchers to do it. Could guarantee to have them on a pitch count/routine that is consistent with what they would be doing in Spring Training. Other than Adam Jones and Hosmer (who ended up being key performers), the rest of the U.S. lineup was All-Star caliber. Sure, Harper and Trout didn't participate but there was still plenty of talent on the field. Just like to see a few more front line SP. Daniel Murphy was the best hitter on the NL last year and he couldn't get on the field. Paul Goldschmidt has been one of the best players in baseball over the last five years. Second in MVP voting in two of the last four years and he couldn't get on the field. There is certainly not a problem with getting positional talent to play.
  11. 1 point
    The article quotes him as saying he threw 95-98 mph in Cuba.
  12. 1 point
    I did a study of all the AL East teams' drafts from 2000 to the present earlier this offseason. http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/index.php?/topic/26963-ranking-the-best-orioles-draft-picks-of-the-21st-century/&page=2 The Yankees were the second-worst drafting team in the division over that span (we were worst), and almost all the value came from players drafted in the early part of that span. The Yankees haven't drafted a player since 2008 who has accumulated 1.0 rWAR or more in the major leagues. So, I would not attribute their streak of winning seasons to good drafting. But they have done well on the international front, and of course have bought a lot of players.
  13. 1 point
    One of the two former MLB outfielders they talk to in the podcast said that his pitchers asked for him to play in.
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    Good read. I like there chances against Oregon tonight, heck Oregon lost to GT during the regular season and even Maryland beat GT!
  17. 1 point
    It's fun but it's the NIT to me. When the US pitching staff doesn't have guys like Kershaw, Scherzer, Verlander, Britton, and bunch more, it's not our best team.
  18. 1 point
    Then you would have had a huge issues with the old Colts and Orioles. Working class isn't a race. Why is it being made into something it's not? When did working class only include white people. This is why there is so much tension in the world. People making a big deal out of nothing.
  19. 1 point
    o How Michigan Became the Feel-Good Story of the NCAA Tournament (By Hallie Grossman) http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18979689/how-michigan-became-feel-good-story-2017-ncaa-tournament o
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  21. 1 point
    I enjoyed this WBC , but I also paid more attention than the past due to the number of Orioles participating. My biggest complaint is the 9pm ET start times for the final games. I can't make it past the 3rd inning because I need to be functional at work the next day.
  22. 1 point
    o If you drive a car, I'll tax the street.If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.If you get too cold, I'll tax the heat.If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet ........ TAXMAN !!! George Harrison, 1966 o
  23. 1 point
    They barely made it into the semi finals. Not saying they didn't deserve it. Just making the point that there is a thin line between getting knocked out before the semis and being the champion. When people start talking about Leyland and the makeup of the team I think it's being overdone. It's a tournament with many of each countries best players, but certainly not all, who are not in peak baseball condition, playing against each other. It's fun. It proves nothing. Steve Melewski says we should appreciate Adam Jones a little more for what he did in the tournament. I'm still going to get pissed at him when he swings at sliders in the dirt or if he comes up small in the postseason again. I'm happy for him and the U.S. team that he had some big hits and made a great catch. When he comes down to it, I care a lot more what he does this season for my team.
  24. 1 point
    I think Miley is on a very long leash. 1) He is being paid almost 9M, 2) He has a history of making 30 starts. 3) The O's don't have anyone better.
  25. 1 point
    Some people enjoy watching baseball.
  26. 1 point
    I actually think the depth in the bullpen is good. It's just that not many have had great springs. I think Drake will be good if he's healthy and makes the team. Liranzo isn't too far off. Crichton's stuff looks better than his numbers at Bowie. A lot if movement on a 92-94 two seamer and a pretty good breaking ball. Bridwell finally converting to the bullpen full time. Verrett's stuff should play up out of the pen. Bleier did not impress me but he's decent depth as a LH. Cleavinger looked interesting. Good breaking ball and 90-92 that looks like it plays up because of deceptive delivery. Depth at starter looks questionable. Have to hope Wright and Ynoa put it together.
  27. 1 point
    I don't see how that is possible. He needs so many pitches to get through an inning he can't go 5 innings. He needs to improve big time to win a starter job with the O's.
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  30. 1 point
    America! The bald eagle statue is awesome.
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  34. 1 point
    While ago me and a buddy were down at OPACY. We were standing at the railing above the Vistor's Bullpen. Playing the then California Angels. They had a bunch of guys with bleached hair. Their first reliever gets up, starts warming. Bleached hair. I said real loud "Does she or doesn't she? Only her hairdresser knows!" Whole crowd out there busts out laughing. You know the guy heard it but he never looked up.
  35. 1 point
    Agreed. But the frustration appears to stem from his lack of coachability. Chiti and Wallace are 2,000 times the pitching coaches, scientists, psychologists and physiologists that Brady will ever be. It's ridiculous that Brady would come in and undermine them like that. "Hey, bro - come out to my Cali house and we can down protein smoothies and I'll show you how to pitch. Whaddya think?" Personally, I don't like Brady as organizational gadfly. If they want to make him responsible for something beyond wind sprints and milk shakes, fine. But make him actually responsible and make it clear to everybody that he's somehow accountable. These kinds of special kids in organizations drive me nuts. All of that said, I love Brady and everything he's done for this team. I really, really do. He's a very smart man. But he also has an entitled vibe about him that is great in an athlete - but probably somewhat annoying in an executive.
  36. 1 point
    I'm enjoying it. I've watched more games than in years past. I've been following Manny and AJ for the most part. If there weren't any Orioles playing, I not care so much. I think they should make sure at least a few players from each team play to keep interest.
  37. 1 point
    He didn't start the game, but he sure finished it.
  38. 1 point
    Based on this thread Dan doesn't have to say a thing to make some O's fans look like morons.
  39. 1 point
    I agree I would not have embraced Buatista any more than I would have embraced ARod, Ortiz or Donaldson. I don't like these kind of player. Hot dog, diva, Me first players. I like team players who aren't interested in putting on a show to call attention to their brands, but rather work hard, grind whatever, to help the team win. Trumbo is a decent contrast, AJ would be a better one. Call it team player, blue collar, working class what you will, it's a worthwhile distinction IMO.
  40. 1 point
    I think its about the bizarre notion that the phrase "working class" is somehow racist shorthand.
  41. 1 point
    If your cause to find racism is so strong that you're sticking up for Jose Bautista, then you're in too deep. You know he's like the most disliked player in baseball right? How about this statement. Bautista sucks. F Cito.
  42. 1 point
    Again, Trumbo was used as an example because there was a choice between re-signing him versus going for Bautista instead. This has nothing to do with who the most "working class" guy on the O's is. It's about Trumbo versus Bautista. That's it. The working class comment was really odd, but it has nothing to do with anyone else currently on the Orioles. The Deadspin article and posters here seem to be confused about that.
  43. 1 point
    I thought this was pretty clear. I can imagine Trumbo with his lunch pail doing construction work. I can't see miss thing Jose doing that without his entourage and a catered lunch.
  44. 1 point
    Jim Leyland " The guy who woke me up a little bit is Adam Jones. He's into it!"
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  46. 1 point
    This is my story. As some of you may or may not know (not sure if I mentioned it before on here,) I am a police officer in Baltimore City. Yes, I was there for the riots. Yes, I did the 12 hour shifts right by the CNN famous Penn North location, for 7 straight days. Lucky me. In December of 2015, I was severely hurt in an accident while going to help another officer in a fight. Hurt enough to be out of work for several months at the time. That is when Workman’s Comp started screwing me around. When you are used to a routine, getting up, getting ready, putting on gear and realizing that each day may be the day that someone you are talking to or someone you might not even see comes up behind you and kills you, or tries to take out you and your coworkers, and now that is taken away and the doctors and insurance adjusters in your case feel like you are faking your injury, when you wake up everyday in more pain than the last, fighting just to have some semblance of a life, it wears on you. Sitting at home, doing nothing, can only go so far. Luckily, that is where Frederick Keys baseball, and eventually Austin Wynns, comes into play. From February to June, I was a complete wreck. Phone calls. Appointments. Therapy. Pain. Pain from moving. Pain from standing still. Pain from sitting. Pain from being painful. Doubting what was going on, doubting if I was even really injured, and replaying what happened over and over and over again. Thinking “what if.” In late April, I walked down the little grassy hill on the first base foul side in Nymeo Field (Frederick Keys) towards the Keys bullpen. The same hill I had spent the several years playing on when I was a kid. I had been to several games before this during the season and had started having some favorite players. One was Wynns. I was never much of an autograph person, but I walked down and saw him and Jonah Heim warming up. I ended up getting both of their autographs. Then, about a month later in Bowie, Wynns was there, having just been called up earlier that day. I was the only one that recognized him and ended up saying “hi” to him and having a short conversation, mainly a “congrats on getting called to Bowie” and a “good luck.” At this point, I was still living a surreal, living nightmare. The pain was increasing, I was losing movement and the doctor that the insurance company had given me was less than caring. Work only cared about why I wasn’t back at work yet. No matter how much I told the doctor that his treatments weren’t working, all I could hear was “oh well. You’ll have to live with it.” In my job, that would mean I wouldn’t HAVE a job. Regardless, I couldn’t just sit around the house. My self-prescription was more baseball. Further trips. Hello Norfolk! At this point, I figure a longer drive to a different state and stadium would help clear my mind. Setting out at a lovely 4 am for Norfolk, I was intent on making it to a blistering hot 12:05 PM game. I arrive right before the gates open and get an alert on my phone. Austin Wynns had been called up to Norfolk the day before. I walk in and there is only 1 player on the field at this time, stretching and getting ready in the scorching stadium. Too tired to notice the pain and heat, I made my way down towards the field and called out to him. He stopped and came over. “Hey Austin, did you steal my schedule or something?” “Nah, the Orioles might have, though.” We chat for a bit and end with the usual “congrats on getting to Norfolk and good luck.” He drives in the only run of the game. The 5 hour drive back actually seems to go by quickly as things seem better. Not but 2 weeks later, several things happen. Wynns comes back to Frederick, Jonah Heim is traded away, and Wynston Sawyer gets injured. Wynns is now the starting catcher for Frederick during a time that, whether by fate or coincidence, Frederick is the team with the most home games that week. By this point, Workmans Comp has stopped with the payments, the job has been sending me to their doctor, who is sending his “reports” to HR, which in turn sends me a letter that tells me I can’t do my job, so it might be time to leave. I’m still fighting to find a doctor that will listen and treat me, instead of dismissing me because they are being paid by the insurance company. Coworkers have stopped even checking on me, I’ve been ignoring family and friends because I feel like no one really cares. I miss some games because of appointments and a general apathy to wanting to go out or even be around people. Finally, I get the stubbornness to go to another Keys game, as the drive up 70 is soothing. Wynns is starting, as he is the only catcher on the roster at the time. Mercedes hasn’t yet packed his bags from Delmarva and Zack Kapstein appears to be a player only on paper. I head back down the familiar hill again, slightly hoping I slip on the slope and crack my head open on the rocks nearby and can finally get the medical attention. Instead, I make it down safely as Wynns is putting his gear on. This time, he speaks first. “Hey man, haven’t seen you in a bit. Everything ok?” Maybe it was a long day. Maybe it was the “everything ok?” Maybe it was the childhood version of me popping out, giddy. Whatever it was, I explained to him about my job and my injury as he stretched. He could have easily just have ignored me, or cut me off, or whatever. Even when the starting pitcher came out, Wynns waved him off for a bit to listen. He added some words here in there, thanked me for what I do, then walked over to the fence, shook my hand and said “keep me up to date and I hope things go well for you. Good luck.” With that simple act, the weight of the world seemed to fall off. I’m not an emotional person, but I damn near broke down right there. For the first time in months, it felt like someone cared. I would love to say that he hit a home run that night. It was actually 2 weeks later and I got it. During the next few weeks, I would talk to him and keep him up to date as things finally seemed to be progressing. Then, in the middle of one game, I got a call. New doctor, new test results. Come in and schedule the surgery needed so I could get my normal life and career back. I told Austin on the concourse and got another handshake and a “you’re a great guy. Keep doing you and you’ll get through it just fine.” Also got a bat from him that night and I gave him one of my business cards. He got called up to Norfolk the next day. We ended up friending each other on Instagram. Didn’t think much of it, but was happy. Then, moments after surgery, the fiancé took my picture of me in the hospital bed, sling and all, and all hooked up, with me giving a barely coherent thumbs up. This picture ended up on Instagram. While waiting in the car for the fiancé to get my medicine, I got an alert that someone had liked my picture. The person that had been kind to me all season when he had no obligation to be, who gave a few words of encouragement that seemed to take the weight off, the person who seemed to be in the right place at the right time, liked the picture. A very small gesture, but after everything I had gone through, it meant (and still means) the most to me. That is why, no matter what, I will always root for him. Whether it is with the Orioles or with another team, I will be there for the first game he plays. He earned a fan for life, for being himself.
  47. -1 points
    It's official, ESPN is reporting it. a 3rd rounder and a 7th this year and then another 3rd rounder next year. Pretty steep IMO, but still glad it got done.
  48. -1 points
    Notification is supposed to be by midnight tonight.
  49. -1 points
    http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/bal/spring_training/ WORKOUTS Fans are invited to watch workouts on the back fields at the complex each day from Feb. 14-23 from approximately 9:30 a.m.-12:30 p.m. The first full squad workout will be held on Feb. 17. There is no charge to attend, and free parking is available in the East Lot off of 12th Street and Tuttle Avenue The 2017 season marks the eighth consecutive Spring Training for the Orioles in Sarasota, and the seventh in the renovated Ed Smith Stadium. With its modern amenities mixed with historical Florida architecture, Ed Smith Stadium has truly become "Birdland South." Since 2010, when the club's Major League operations moved to Sarasota, more than 640,000 fans have enjoyed Spring Training baseball at Ed Smith Stadium.
  50. -1 points
    I don't know. Buck is so worried about another Britton playoff meltdown that he won't even put him in the game.
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