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  1. https://www.orioleshangout.com/2021/10/27/coby-mayo/
    3 points
  2. Gunnar: Age 20-120 days Westburg: Age 22-251 days
    3 points
  3. I have Gunnar Henderson #3 because he projects to play the more premium defensive position, and despite having less raw power than Mayo, showed some plate discipline at all levels that he played at this past season, which bodes well for Gunnar's ability to be a complete hitter. I like Tony's #3 ranking for Mayo, though. Never seen an O's prospect in my lifetime with this kind of raw power at such an early age. Most of the big publications will be lazy and rank Hall #3, but his injury risk profile and risk to be a reliever place him behind Gunnar, Mayo, and Cowser for me.
    3 points
  4. He's already 6'5", how much bigger do you want him to get?
    3 points
  5. Troy Glaus vs Markakis I would guess most fans, especially Os fans, would say Markakis was the better player. But Glaus’ WAR was 5 wins higher than Nick in roughly 600 less games. Markakis was healthier but Glaus was the bigger threat. If Mayo is a Troy Glaus type guy and he can be healthier than Glaus was, you are looking at a perennial 3.5-5 WAR guy with spikes in the 6-8 range very possibly. Cowser should be a consistent 2.5-4 WAR guy if he stays healthy and has to go to a corner spot.
    2 points
  6. Sometimes people think I'm down on a guy when I give my reasonings for ranking a guy over another guy. That doesn't mean I don't like the other guy, just that if I could only have one in my system, I'd take the guy I ranked above him. Henderson has a lot of things to like. He also has a lot of things he needs to improve upon, but that's why he's in the minors. Unlike some others, I want people to know about the things that need to improve so they can have a full and complete picture of player and not the pollyanna approach some other may go with on the prospect scene. I think people
    2 points
  7. Hey, if Tony thinks he's a better prospect than Cowser is, that's a good thing, because Cowser is - relatively speaking - a known quantity.
    2 points
  8. The fact that four of the choices are polling at 17% or more tells you how close this is. It’s nice to have a system with four good candidates to be no. 3.
    2 points
  9. And Best Tools of the current prospects in the system per BA
    1 point
  10. Playing big payroll teams? What about playing small payroll teams like Tampa who also beat our brains in? I don't know if FA pitchers really don't want to play in Baltimore because it's my personal belief that the Orioles haven't tried. I don't think the Orioles have made giant efforts to sign any quality free agents in the past few years. Now if there were constant reports out there saying that the Orioles had equal offers on the table to other clubs and the player decided to go elsewhere, fine. It is easy to say that FA pitchers don't want to come play here because we haven't s
    1 point
  11. I’ll admit I was the lone vote for Stowers. I feel he is better than Heston who hasn’t played yet and Hall who I believe is best suited as a dominant bullpen arm (Aroldis Chapman). Gunnar didn’t really impress this year even though he was much younger than his competition. It was a coin flip for me between Cowser and Stowers and Stowers had more at bats against tougher competition so I felt more comfortable. Stowers was a .280 hitter in college with power and this year across 3 levels had a .278 average with 27 dingers in only 530 plate appearances. The guy is consistent against all level
    1 point
  12. Meoli on International players next season:
    1 point
  13. I’m sure Greinke would agree.
    1 point
  14. I'd take Mayo every day of the week and twice on Sunday over Martin right now. Martin has defensive issues and a lack of power so I'm not sure what his upside exactly.
    1 point
  15. I suspect he already is by a fair number of people.
    1 point
  16. Stowers would not be where he'll end up on Tony's list if he were in A or AA. It's because he did what he did in AAA and is ready for the next step. He's produced against better competition. That means his risk is lower, as it relates to experience at least.
    1 point
  17. Most teams that win their postseason do so because they get hot at the right time. Rarely does the best team from the regular season always win, in any sport. If Atlanta wins, they will have earned it..just like the 85 win Cardinals earned the WS title years ago.
    1 point
  18. The tough division and unbalanced schedule make life a little more difficult for the Orioles, but it’s very rare that they’ve had a winning record outside the AL East when they’ve had a losing record overall. There really is no season you can point to in the last 25 years and say, “they would have made the playoffs if they hadn’t been in the AL East.” So I tend not to worry about it much.
    1 point
  19. Could you imagine if the Premier League split into divisions, put Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City, Man United and Norwich in a division, then played a unbalanced schedule? Why would Norwich ever have any fans? They would beg for relegation just so they could watch some meaningful footy.
    1 point
  20. This was shared by @Frobby Posted October 9 “Westburg is ahead of Gunnar, having had 130 PA in AA compared to Gunnar’s 17. Westburg also had the stronger performance at all three levels. I think both players start next year back in AA, but Westburg could move quickly to AAA after 1-2 months if he has a good start at Bowie. Henderson I think will spend most of the year in AA but could spend the last 1/3 season in AAA if things go well.” I was surprised too, given the enthusiasm about Gunnar.
    1 point
  21. I really like our top 10. And our top 20 is pretty solid too. You're right that it will be interesting to see how a lot of guys perform next year. Kjerstad, Baumler obviously. But also guys like Pinto, Basallo, Hernandez, Williams, Willem, De Los Santos, Rhodes, Trimble, McLarty, Lyons could emerge. A lot of potential at the lower levels. Will be fun!
    1 point
  22. It's that time of year once again where we give you an in-depth view of the Orioles system. This year, we will be adding in a risk rating based on level played at and injury history for each prospect. Risk Assessment Likelihood AAA AA A+ A- FCL/DSL Never injured 1 2 10 16 25 Minor injury 2 9 15 20 25 Multiple injuries
    1 point
  23. I don't disagree with any of your reasoning, and all valid points, but Mayo was handled pretty cautiously this season. I mentioned this in a previous thread, but Mayo wasn't really challenged this season. Henderson was. And yes, that was because Henderson is older and had the alternate site the year prior to get his footing. But I actually view Henderson's struggles and adjustments with each new level as a positive, and I think he'll improve against lefties as he gets more at bats as he climbs up the system. Henderson has the range and fielding instincts (which he demonstrated on multiple
    1 point
  24. I’m doing some serious research before voting. ATM, I have Westburg over Gunnar, but haven’t decided on this choice yet.
    1 point
  25. I don't believe anyone was allowed at the alternate camps last year so if "reporters" were getting information, they were coming from Orioles personnel or perhaps have a source with another team that fed them stat cast data collected at the sites. I had sources that are not the "Blood-kind" of source and they agreed that he looked really good after a slow start. Of course, he was seeing a lot of the same pitchers over and over.
    1 point
  26. Let's look at Gunnar's Delmarva stats at 20 years old vs Coby Mayo at 19 years old. Name BB% K% ISO BABIP AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ Mayo 12.8% 20.8% .236 .373 .311 .416 .547 .437 159 in 125 PAs Gunnar 8.9% 29.3% .262 .404 .312 .369 .574 .417 147 in 157 PAs Pretty close overall but Mayo's better BB and K rates are much better while hitting for a little less power. We also have to remember Gunnar had the Alternate site PAs that certainly helped him coming into this season giving hi
    1 point
  27. His span of possible outcomes ranges from all star to never appearing in a game.
    1 point
  28. Pretty awesome that Morton got 2 K's after he broke his fibula. He must have been incredibly focused.
    1 point
  29. It's a snapshot after a single season. No doubt Gunnar could be above Mayo next year just based on Gunnar's performance alone. That kid could be special. He did have an up and down season though, both at the plate and in the field. If he's like some of the kids I know, the offseason can be used to really clean up the game. Not sure that applies as they get older, but there's nothing stopping Gunnar from being our #1 prospect next year. It might not be likely, but it's possible.
    1 point
  30. It's Cowser, IMO, and those are 5 good players on that list. I'm thinking Markakis at the plate. Better range, less arm, in the outfield. Low risk, but pretty high upside player with high probability to start for Baltimore relatively soon and for a long time. He's here because his upside is comparable to the other guys but he has less risk. In fact, I'd wager that Tony's rankings of Henderson, Hall and Stowers will depend on how he views their risk as much as their upside, with Stowers' upside a tick behind the other two and thus probably the last of them to show on the list, IMO.
    1 point
  31. The more I read about Brook Lee - I worry he's another Austin Martin (no definitive position and average hitting). He's only worth the 1st pick if he stays at SS (with decent defense) or hits for power at 3rd/2nd. My concerns: He hit 10 hrs his junior year, less power than Martin at the same age and his defense has been considered average at best. Also, he's not super athletic or has a rocket arm.
    1 point
  32. My man! I got this one "right" insofar as Tony picked him 3rd too. That shouldn't be surprising since a fair amount of my own opinion comes from what Tony posts here. That said, the kid walks, hits for power, and has a cannon for an arm. Seems like a prototypical future 3B assuming he can continue to grow. It'll be real interesting to see the pecking order a year from now when the list is #1 overall pick, Mayo, Henderson, amongst others.
    1 point
  33. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/transactions/?tcid=mm_mlb_news#month=10&year=2021
    1 point
  34. No later than 5 PM the day after the World Series ends.
    1 point
  35. AFL GAME SUMMARY (10/26)
    1 point
  36. https://www.orioleshangout.com/2021/10/24/adley-rutschman-c-2/
    1 point
  37. Was living in Los Angeles, in my late teens. A guy who had a crush on me took me to a Dodgers-Yankees WS game, 1977. Relationship with the guy didn’t go anywhere but the one with baseball was cemented for life.
    1 point
  38. That's a good point. I guess MLB's version of that is marquee pitching matchups, Scherzer vs. Kershaw for example. But, those are pretty rare due to injuries and things not lining up with five-man rotations. When they do happen, they often don't last past the 6th inning. Maybe I'm just romanticizing things, but I feel like MLB was better at drumming up the Petite vs. Pedro matchups of yesteryear. Now you don't really hear that type of marketing as much.
    1 point
  39. I don't think they care about balancing the fairness. Why do we have unbalanced schedules yet the AL East has big money spenders in Boston, New York and even Toronto. How is it fair that the Orioles have to compete 19 times against AL East team while the almost always weaker Al Central and West compete mostly against them but best record is what gets you into the Wild card if you don't win your Division. I don't they care that one team has a $250 million payroll while others have $50 million. I don't think they care that a star can earn $30 million dollars but a rookie makes under 600K an
    1 point
  40. Really, in baseball, the NY and LA markets are so dramatically larger than the others - when teams like Houston and Atlanta make it to the WS at 8 and 7 sizes, they should be considered mid-market teams.
    1 point
  41. There's a lot of blame to go around between the owners and the Union leadership of the players. The problem is, neither side cares about the fans. They just assume they will always be there, but I think they are playing a very dangerous game this time. I would think they will understand and get a deal done, but as it was pointed out, never underestimate the greed and lack of self awareness by either side.
    1 point
  42. One thing interesting about the Mets' situation - because they didn't sign Rocker, they get the 11th pick in the 2022 draft - in addition to having the 14th pick based on their 2021 record. So, if they sign a qualified free agent, they lose their 2nd pick in the draft - which is pick # 14. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/10/which-draft-picks-each-team-would-forfeit-by-signing-a-qualified-free-agent.html
    1 point
  43. It won't be posturing when they take away the Oriole fan's most important day of the year: Rule 5 Draft Day!
    1 point
  44. It may push back some offseason things but I doubt it lasts too long. These things tend to always look doom and gloom at first.
    1 point
  45. Wow! You young whippersnappers suck the life out of everything! I don't see stoics - I see wads of chaw in player's grill, pearls dangling before swine, bats flipping everywhere, umps missing calls, sunflower seeds spit on dugout floors, water going in and quickly spit out rather than swallowing. It's a cornucopia of action and style. I see donnybrooks and butcher boys and great pieces of hitting. I see wonderful, graceful catches, errors of commission and omission, dropped balls, bats splitting and balls hitting roofs and called dingers! True, one never knows when the action will occur
    1 point
  46. It was a great event that was really the most positive celebration of life I've ever been too. It started off with a video Roy Firestone sent in where he read his tribute to Michael and Denise. Then Denise filled us in on some great moments followed by Michael's family members. I was honored that Denise asked me to say a few words and I focused on how Michael made people better by just knowing him. I believe we had five Hangouters attend along with Adam Pohl from Bowie, and Dan Connolly from The Athletic. It was a great time and I loved hearing so many other great stories about Mich
    1 point
  47. And I thought Roch didn't like Frobby.
    1 point
  48. Win 3 Cy Youngs, 3 World Series and a WS game in 3 decades and you can be as arrogant as you want. Palmer rules.
    1 point
  49. I hope in 2022 they'll play well enough to make us care about setting the window at 2023-2029. You don't have to be a Secretariat-level thoroughbred ala Machado for it to matter. My guess is the 2022 Orioles won't give that special magic context 2012 Machado got. These two guys - on the great Shortstop or not question, both got ~36 games off position this year. Of MLB's 30 primary shortstops in 2021, only about one-third had that many off position in their entire minor league careers. MIXES - Niko Goodrum, Isaiah Kiner-Falefa (an amazing baseball life), Kyle Farmer and Paul
    1 point
  50. I'd consider wearing it.
    1 point
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