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  1. Win 3 Cy Youngs, 3 World Series and a WS game in 3 decades and you can be as arrogant as you want. Palmer rules.
    10 points
  2. It's that time of year once again where we give you an in-depth view of the Orioles system. This year, we will be adding in a risk rating based on level played at and injury history for each prospect. Risk Assessment Likelihood AAA AA A+ A- FCL/DSL Never injured 1 2 10 16 25 Minor injury 2 9 15 20 25 Multiple injuries
    8 points
  3. It was a great event that was really the most positive celebration of life I've ever been too. It started off with a video Roy Firestone sent in where he read his tribute to Michael and Denise. Then Denise filled us in on some great moments followed by Michael's family members. I was honored that Denise asked me to say a few words and I focused on how Michael made people better by just knowing him. I believe we had five Hangouters attend along with Adam Pohl from Bowie, and Dan Connolly from The Athletic. It was a great time and I loved hearing so many other great stories about Mich
    8 points
  4. https://www.orioleshangout.com/2021/10/24/adley-rutschman-c-2/
    6 points
  5. I wait all year for this. I’m expecting this to be one of the best lists ever due to the quality of our prospects and the amazing amount of work Tony has put in this entire season (and I’m sure, in the past two months).
    6 points
  6. Hey Sportsfan; Thank you for the compliments. So there are 3 DSL guys in Florida now. 17 year old Samuel Basallo received $1.3 million. The biggest bonus of the Elias Era. He was expected to sign with the Yankees. He was very good batting .239/.338/.410 for a .748 OPS. 5 homers, 8 doubles. Now in Instructional League. Led Orioles 1 in homers and RBIs 17 year oldShortstop Maikol Hernandez received $1.2 million. He hit .231/.340/.308 for a .647 OPS. No homers, only 4 for 7 in steals. He is in the Instructional League so they still believe in him. 17 year old 3rd base
    5 points
  7. I don't think they care about balancing the fairness. Why do we have unbalanced schedules yet the AL East has big money spenders in Boston, New York and even Toronto. How is it fair that the Orioles have to compete 19 times against AL East team while the almost always weaker Al Central and West compete mostly against them but best record is what gets you into the Wild card if you don't win your Division. I don't they care that one team has a $250 million payroll while others have $50 million. I don't think they care that a star can earn $30 million dollars but a rookie makes under 600K an
    4 points
  8. It won't be posturing when they take away the Oriole fan's most important day of the year: Rule 5 Draft Day!
    4 points
  9. In the 21st century so far: 19 of 30 MLB teams have made the World Series at least once (63%) 23 of 32 NHL teams have made the Stanley Cup at least once (72%) 21 0f 32 NFL teams have made the Super Bowl at least once (66%) 16 of 30 NBA teams have made the NBA Finals at least once (53%). So baseball does better than NBA in spreading around the ability to make the finals, but not as good as NFL or NHL.
    4 points
  10. I watched more of Grenier this year than any year before. To me, he's the best defensive shortstop in the system. He's not flashy, doesn't have incredible range or a plus plus arm, but he's about as steady as they come at SS and he's a plus defender at 2B. Of course, the issue is the bat and the more I watched the more I saw his struggles against offspeed pitches. I don't know his EVs but he looks to hit fastballs pretty well overall, but really struggled against anything offspeed. Once the book got out on him in AA, he really, really struggled slashing .187/.320/.302/.622 over his
    4 points
  11. And I thought Roch didn't like Frobby.
    4 points
  12. Baltimore Orioles @Orioles The next generation inspiring the next generation. @RutschmanAdley was in Portland, Oregon over the weekend, where he teamed up with @USABaseball to host a free youth baseball clinic!
    4 points
  13. The Yanks and now the Sox are doing the same thing as the O's, not playing anymore playoff baseball.
    3 points
  14. https://www.orioleshangout.com/2021/10/27/coby-mayo/
    3 points
  15. Gunnar: Age 20-120 days Westburg: Age 22-251 days
    3 points
  16. I have Gunnar Henderson #3 because he projects to play the more premium defensive position, and despite having less raw power than Mayo, showed some plate discipline at all levels that he played at this past season, which bodes well for Gunnar's ability to be a complete hitter. I like Tony's #3 ranking for Mayo, though. Never seen an O's prospect in my lifetime with this kind of raw power at such an early age. Most of the big publications will be lazy and rank Hall #3, but his injury risk profile and risk to be a reliever place him behind Gunnar, Mayo, and Cowser for me.
    3 points
  17. He's already 6'5", how much bigger do you want him to get?
    3 points
  18. Was living in Los Angeles, in my late teens. A guy who had a crush on me took me to a Dodgers-Yankees WS game, 1977. Relationship with the guy didn’t go anywhere but the one with baseball was cemented for life.
    3 points
  19. What does “fair” even mean in a context where everyone makes gobs of money? The way I see it, baseball had a certain revenue stream 20 years ago and the owners and union did some hard bargaining over how to split the pie. Since then, the owners have come up with a variety of ways to increase the sport’s revenue other than TV and gate receipts, and they feel entitled to keep the majority of that new revenue since they were the ones who came up with the ideas and took the entrepreneurial risks that created it. Some of it goes beyond the sport (I’m thinking here of the MLBAM technology that
    3 points
  20. There's a lot of blame to go around between the owners and the Union leadership of the players. The problem is, neither side cares about the fans. They just assume they will always be there, but I think they are playing a very dangerous game this time. I would think they will understand and get a deal done, but as it was pointed out, never underestimate the greed and lack of self awareness by either side.
    3 points
  21. Like always! Hopefully though my answers and rankings have merits on why one is ranked ahead of another. Saying that, I've always said the write ups are more important than the rankings.
    3 points
  22. Well if you don't have cable (are satellite dishes still a thing? They are the WV state flower, I suppose) or a streaming service and consider TBS, TNT FS1 backwater channels...That sounds like a @waynebugproblem. My parents are old and tech adverse, they still didn't have a problem finding the playoffs. Baseball is losing in popularity because people these days have the attention span of a gnat. That's one of the reasons, anyway. KC won a World Series a few years ago. Tampa is always, always competitive. Small markets are able to do just fine in the MLB.
    3 points
  23. Fun fact: Grenier was born on Halloween, McKenna was born on Valentines Day. Grenier is the older of the two by 3.5 months. McKenna was younger than Grenier at his various MiL stops. He was 21-22 when playing AA with a .694 OPS there; Grenier was 24 with a .689. In theory, McKenna should be the better big league hitter. But last year he was horrific in the majors (.559 OPS), while mysteriously acing AAA whenever he was down there (1.106 OPS). He had kind of a herky-jerky season, playing 117 games between the two levels but gathering only 320 PA. It went like this:
    3 points
  24. Loved the 1967-68 Series, Cards-Red Sox and Cards-Tigers. Both 7 games, both featuring game 7 with Bob Gibson on the mound for the Cards and an opposing pitcher going on only two days’ rest (Jim Lonborg for the Sox, Mickey Lolich for the Tigers). Cards won in ‘67, lost in ‘68. I watched those Series (still played during the day) almost in their entirety. They really were the first two I watched all of.
    3 points
  25. Thinking of Michael and Denise today. Wish i could have attended but you are in my thoughts.
    3 points
  26. He obviously isn't taking the fanbase's desires into consideration. Which he shouldn't. The idea is to create an organization that can maintain competitiveness over an extended period. Drafting high school players can be a part of that. Also HS players selected 1-1 tend not to spend an extended period of time in the minors.
    3 points
  27. I expect Baltimore's homicide rate to be cut in half as soon as he is promoted. And the grocery shortages caused by supply chain issues to disappear. And there won't be any more stink bugs getting into people's houses either.
    3 points
  28. Might as well start this thread, news about the negotiations go here. First big news item: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-almost-certain-to-have-first-work-stoppage-in-26-years-per-report/ Summary: Winter meetings reportedly being cancelled. Two sides have been talking since spring, neither side feels the other has come anywhere close to what it would take to bridge the gap. Lockout at 12:00 AM December 2 appears inevitable.
    2 points
  29. The fact that four of the choices are polling at 17% or more tells you how close this is. It’s nice to have a system with four good candidates to be no. 3.
    2 points
  30. Is his K rate that high? I've got him at 18.5% K-rate across three levels last season, with a walk rate of 13.4% (this as a 19-year old). Those numbers are roughly in line with Adley's career MiL numbers in both (not exactly apples-apples)
    2 points
  31. It's time to shift the paradigm. If out of this dispute we ever hope to climb.
    2 points
  32. I went with Hall, health be damned. His stuff is incredible when he is on the bump. If he can mature physically, and stay healthy, he may be our best pitcher. I’ll go with the pure talent here.
    2 points
  33. Dang it, I forgot how glowing Tony was in his praise of Mayo towards the end of the year. I want to change my vote I think the next 2 for Tony will be Mayo and Cowser, in that order. After that, it gets a bit trickier...
    2 points
  34. The Baltimore Orioles going into the Rule 5 draft with five open slots on the 40-man roster.
    2 points
  35. As long as the minor leagues get to play next season it probably will not impact the O's rebuild.
    2 points
  36. What gets me about MLB's marketing (or lack thereof) is that they're willing to do things that fundamentally change the game (e.g., the special extra innings rules, 7-inning double-headers, etc.), which have the potential to piss off their long-time, core fanbase, but they don't seem willing to do any of the stuff that's more outreach-based to sell the existing product.
    2 points
  37. They haven't formally announced the plan(s). My guess is they will let the teams handle it.
    2 points
  38. Creed crushing and quoting Jeremiah.
    2 points
  39. Neustrom’s stats are not awesome, agreed. He is not currently listed on many top 30 lists, but he should be in the back end somewhere as an older guy who is beginning to make positive strides. On the other hand, it’s only one good season. For me, he looks to be a solid defender, but not a gold glove candidate. Neustrom had some really legendary home runs this year, one around 480 feet in Hartford. Many others that were in the 450 foot range from what I have read over the year. The 31 2B, 16 HR and 83 RBI’s are not gaudy, but very solid numbers from a guy who is 25 next month. The .748 OP
    2 points
  40. I have no idea why they would protect Stewart at this point.
    2 points
  41. So a RED SOX fan is talking about stealing signs? Not very self aware are they?
    2 points
  42. Why would Stewart still be on the team?
    2 points
  43. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-david-hess-chest-tumor-20211014-icyy7wadojhfpfnkkpkphx7tda-story.html%3foutputType=amp David Hess announced he’s undergoing chemotherapy for a cancerous growth in his chest. Best wishes for a full recovery for the young man.
    2 points
  44. I think we're already expecting too much out of AR. He might help a little in those areas but unless the sheer talent level of the pitching staff changes, AR isn't going to magically take what we have to some unforeseen heights.
    2 points
  45. First off, decades overdue. Why not do both? The team can own or lease apartments for the players, but players can opt out and take a stipend to put towards a house if they have a family.
    2 points
  46. Yeah, so I’ve held off telling the story about my interaction w/ Jones, but he’s no longer an Oriole, so.... I posted years ago about a hitting clinic he held at SDSU w/ Harold Reynolds. It was a fun time for me and my daughters taking a road trip from Los Angeles. After the clinic was over we, of course, went to see about getting something signed or a picture. We waited patiently as he signed for a number of people and then I approached him to get a picture of him and my girls. He started to lineup to do so and then balked at the idea, saying it would take too much time, at which t
    2 points
  47. I think we’re going to pick like 1, 33, and 40, with the 1st rd pick, the comp a pick, and then the 2nd rd pick. With this draft pool and Elias’ affinity for going bat heavy, we are going to be absolutely loaded post this draft position player wise.
    2 points
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