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  1. 16 minutes ago, SteveA said:

    Part of it is because back in those days you almost always stayed in the game if you were pitching a shutout.  So to pitch 3 straight games of at least 6 innings without allowing a run, you practically had to pitch 3 straight CG shutouts.  A line of 6 innings 0 runs was a rarity, certainly in the 70s and earlier, and to some extent the 80s.

    Yes, that is what Palmer did.  On either side of it, he allowed 1 run in 7+ innings, and threw in one more shutout after that.     It was in the midst of an 8 game stretch in which he threw 67.1 innings to an ERA of 0.40, going 7-0 while the team won all 8 games.   

    Yeah, we used to have a pitcher like that.  

  2. 28 minutes ago, SteveA said:

    The amazing thing is that this is the longest scoreless stretch of his career.  Back when he was legitmately a top 10 pitcher in MLB he never reeled off 18 straight scoreless.

    They said on the Postgame show that Harvey was only the fourth pitcher in O’s history to pitch three starts in a row of at least six innings without allowing a run.  I was really surprised that it had happened so few times.   The three pitchers were Jim Palmer, Fernando Valenzuela and Kevin Gausman.  I’d practically forgotten that Valenzuela pitched for the O’s one season.   He had a 4.94 ERA the year he pulled off the feat.   I’m really surprised that none of McNally, Cuellar, Flanagan, McGregor, Stone, Boddicker, Mussina or Bedard ever did this.   

  3. 11 minutes ago, Aglets said:

    So this guy seems pretty good eh.

    Committed a pretty crucial error in the 10th inning, missing a Gunnar Henderson throw on a force play and allowing one run to score and two other runners to take an extra base.   But he did have a homer, a double and a walk.  

  4. Aberdeen lost tonight 10-9 in 10 innings.   Earlier they trailed 3-1 and tied it, then 6-3 and tied it again.  So it was 6-6 in regulation.  

    With the automatic runner on second to start the 10th, the leadoff hitter walked.   The next hitter attempted a sacrifice, fielded by Henderson who fired to Westburg who missed the catch, allowing the lead runner to score and everyone else to take an extra base.   Runners on 2nd and 3rd and still nobody out.  

    After a strikeout, catcher Logan Michaels, an undrafted free agent playing in his first pro game (at the Hi A level, no less), committed a passed ball.  The second run of the inning scored and the other runner advanced to third.   

    Next hitter reached on an error and a runner scored.  

    After a walk, Bowling Green executed a double steal.  The catcher Michaels threw the ball into LF and a fourth run scored.   However, the runner who had stolen 2B tried for 3B and was thrown out by the left fielder for the second out of the second inning.   

    Mercifully, the half inning ended when the next batter struck out.   So, four runs    for Bowling Green without the benefit of a hit, aided by three errors, a passed ball, two walks and a double steal.   BG up 10-6.

    So, game over, right?    Not exactly.  The Ironbirds got their automatic runner on 2B, Haskin singled, and Shane Fontana promptly basted a three run homer.  10-9, nobody out.   

    The next two ironbirds made outs, but Jordan Westburg drew a walk to keep the inning alive.   But Gunnar Henderson flew out to LF and the rally fell short.   

    Crazy game.  

  5. Baumann is probably done, as Norfolk is now in a rain delay.   He’s thrown 5 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 4 Ks.   48 of 74 pitches for strikes.   Both runs came in the first inning, then he settled in nicely.   Good AAA debut.  

  6. I mean, you can’t make up stuff like what Matt Harvey is doing.   I’d given this guy up for dead.   Even when he had his great start coming out of the all star break, I figured it was just like the game Tillman had out of nowhere when he was done.  But now he’s done it three times in a row.  

    And that’s why baseball is insane.  It’s vaguely predictable at times, but at the end of the day you always find out you didn’t quite know what you thought you knew.   

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  7. 14 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:


    I mean his career BABIP is 319.

    The various projections on Fangraphs have him at 294-313.

    So maybe less than 362?

    His xBA is .282.   That’s not just based on normalizing BABIP, but based on quality of contact.   

    His xwOBA is .351 compared to wOBA of .394.

    I do think that speed probably accounts for a bit of the difference, but certainly not all of it.   

    Still, if you told me Mullins would have a .351 wOBA for the next four years, I’d sign for it in blood.   Even taking any luck away, he’s been very good.   


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  8. 4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    Sure, I wouldn't expect the same return.

    I just think you need to factor in ownership mandating a decrease in payroll when judging the O's prospect haul. 

    BTW the O's are paying O'Day through 2023.

    The money is already escrowed.  But I recall the Braves picked up some of that (to your point about payroll decrease mandates).   


  9. 4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    The O's were looking for salary relief in addition to players.  The Nationals weren't.

    How much more do the O's get for Gausman if they don't bundle him with O'Day's contract?

    Scherzer >>> Gausman (2018 version).  I take your point about salary relief being more important to the Orioles, but these are two all-stars the Dodgers just acquired.   I’d expect nothing less in terms of the quality of prospects acquired.  Scherzer’s a guy who could win you a couple of World Series games.  

  10. 11 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    I only recall Matusz having pretty minor stuff like oblique pulls.  Am I forgetting something?

    No, you are right.   We didn’t leave him in the minors long enough to hurt himself.  

  11. 33 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

    Zimmerman was their first pick after the move to DC, and got a September call up less than 3 months later.  He sat out 2020 over COVID, but has played every other year.

    He’s a contemporary of Markakis and very much from the same mold — a quiet, soft spoken guy who never drew attention to himself but was a very good player.   And he has had a serious knack for hitting walk-off homers — 11 of them, in fact.   That’s pretty amazing.   For comparison’s sake, Albert Pujols has 12, David Ortiz had 11, Alex Rodriguez had 9, Miggy Cabrera has 7.    

  12. 3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    At least you can take solace in knowing Elias is keeping the flow of high ceiling pitching coming in via the draft.

    I guess he might argue that this is exactly why he doesn’t use high picks on pitchers.  They’re so damned fragile!   Of course, there’s the Kjerstad situation but that’s nothing that happened as a result of playing the outfield.   

    Honestly, this news is so damned depressing.   I’m ready to call Grayson Rodriguez to the majors right now just so I can see him pitch once when he’s at 100% of his physical powers before the inevitable arm injury that befalls every single pitcher we draft in the first round.   (OK, not Gausman.)

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  13. 12 minutes ago, glenn__davis said:

    If he comes back healthy there's no reason that should be the case. But with Elias it probably is. Gives him a great excuse to start him at Bowie again next year. 

    I’d think that’s the reasonable thing to do.   No “excuse” needed.   At this point we have bigger worries than what level Hall starts at next year.   Like, is the the next Dylan Bundy/Hunter Harvey who dazzles you with his stuff but can’t stay healthy? Will this “stress reaction” blossom into something worse?

    Would it be too much to ask to have one highly touted pitching prospect in 30 years actually get through the minors unscathed and pitch up to expectations in an Oriole uniform?

  14. 1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

    Cancelled.  Not postponed.   What's up with that?   A rhetorical question.

    I’m guessing nobody cares enough to reschedule it.   It’s basically a glorified intrasquad scrimmage.   

  15. 1 hour ago, McLovin said:

    Well, we didn’t make a game. Was excited to see Orange play Black today - which would have been cool to see everyone! But the red tide mess actually shifted for the first time since arriving, and we had a nice beach day. 

    The game got canceled.   I guess everyone was excited to go to the beach!

  16. 4 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

    LOL @ the BJs already trading the great Austin Martin for a good but not great pitcher.

    Wonder if their thoughts on how good Martin is have gone down?

    I think the Jays biggest need is pitching so they went out and got an above average major league starter.  I wouldn’t have traded Rutschman or Torkelson for Berrios, but to me it’s a reasonable deal.  And I guess from the Jays standpoint they got an above average starter out of their pick, although only for 1.3 seasons.  

  17. 8 minutes ago, Brooks The Great said:

    All clearly BS. They just want an excuse to start him at AAA next season to manipulate his service clock. And if the new CBA changes service time manipulation, no big deal. They're freerolling on the chance at saving money.

    Lots of players finish one season at AAA and begin the next still at AAA.    I don’t think they need to avoid sending Rutschman to AAA at this point in order to plausibly assign him there to start 2022.

    That said, I do think they’re doing their best to build a record that they kept him down for developmental reasons.  

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