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Greg Pappas

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  1. https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board/2021-mlb-draft/summary?sort=-1,1&type=0&pageitems=10000000000000&pagenum=0&team=
  2. One of the best posts I've seen in awhile, and I don't drink beer (or alcohol at all). ☝️
  3. Agreed. I realize that different slots mean different amounts. It's all good... I hope we look back and marvel at how well Elias did.
  4. Now that five of the six prospects I targeted in this exercise have signed, there remains $7,433,900 to "sign" Austin Martin. Whether Martin signs for that amount or less, the exercise was created to show what sort of talent we may have been able to draft if we went with A. Martin. I know that I would not have actually taken the exact same six players I pretend drafted, as I am certain to want to have targeted a couple of HS talents at some point. Guys I would have still targeted include A. Martin, McMahon and Bedell. Regardless, what these guys signed for would be for different amounts I'm sure because of different slots. I know this though, I hope Kjerstad and the rest of the 2020 draftees turn out great and they (and Elias/staff) have my full support. The O's Draft Bonus Pool was $13,821,300. Austin Martin went 5th (Blue Jays), though I would have taken him at #2 in my exercise. The #2 slot bonus is $7,789,900. (Signed for $7,000,825) Chris McMahon went 46th (Rockies), though I would have taken him at #30 in my exercise. The #30 slot bonus is $2,365,500. (Signed for $1,637,400) CJ Van Eyk went 42nd (Blue Jays), though I would have taken him at #39 in my exercise. The #39 slot bonus is $1,906,800. (Signed for $1,800,000) Casey Martin went 87th (Phillies), though I would have taken him at #74 in my exercise. The #74 slot bonus is $844,200. (Signed for $1,300,000) Ian Bedell went 122nd (Cardinals), though I would have taken him at #103 in my exercise. The #103 slot bonus is $565,600. (Signed for $800,000) Bryce Elder went 156th (Braves), though I would have taken him at #130 in my exercise. The #130 slot bonus is $422,300. (Signed for $850,000) EDIT: Updated Austin Martin's signing bonus
  5. My thoughts on this were explained in the Amateur Draft forum, but I'll say this here: It doesn't matter what I, you, or anyone else would have done differently... what matters is that Kjerstad and the other draftees ARE Orioles prospects and we need to focus on rooting for them moving forward. Assessing their talents at this juncture is not really easy with their seasons cut woefully short. Yet, we can hope that 1) our staff gets the best these young men have to offer and 2) a couple of them turn out to be quality contributors for us down the road.
  6. Seeing the O's go over 20.5 wins wouldn't surprise me in such an unusual season. I wouldn't bet on it, but getting 21-25 wins or so should be in the realm of expectations. A lower realm, granted, but on the board at least.
  7. Dude, been awhile. Glad to see you back here.
  8. Another "signings" source> American League: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/06/american-league-draft-signings-picks-bonus-info.html National League: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/06/national-league-draft-signings-picks-bonus-info.html
  9. This is not an easy thing to guess, BUT what kind of slash line would you think is the median expectation for Kjerstad in his first few seasons? This question goes for anyone here, not just you DH. For those unfamiliar with what I mean by a slash line, it's Batting Average/On Base %/Slugging %/OPS(OBP+SLG). An example for Kjerstad may be .275/.320/.500/.820 Another example: .285/.335/.530/.865
  10. I want to update this as prospects sign. I have some memory issues, but I'll try to keep up on this. The actual amount for the O's Draft Bonus Pool was $13,821,300. Austin Martin went 5th (Blue Jays), though I would have taken him at #2 in my exercise. The #2 slot bonus is $7,789,900. (Signed for $7,000,825) Chris McMahon went 46th (Rockies), though I would have taken him at #30 in my exercise. The #30 slot bonus is $2,365,500. (Signed for $1,637,400) CJ Van Eyk went 42nd (Blue Jays), though I would have taken him at #39 in my exercise. The #39 slot bonus is $1,906,800. (Signed for $1,800,000) Casey Martin went 87th (Phillies), though I would have taken him at #74 in my exercise. The #74 slot bonus is $844,200. (Signed for $1,300,000) Ian Bedell went 122nd (Cardinals), though I would have taken him at #103 in my exercise. The #103 slot bonus is $565,600. (Signed for $800,000) Bryce Elder went 156th (Braves), though I would have taken him at #130 in my exercise. The #130 slot bonus is $422,300. (Signed for $850,000)
  11. I saw who it was, but it's been removed. No worries. Thanks Frobby. :)
  12. Ah yes, I wasn't thinking about that. Thanks for correcting. :)
  13. It's odd to get down-voted for sharing this thread regarding BA's International Review. A mistake? Maybe I'm missing something? I thought maybe because it was pay-walled, but I made sure to note that in the title and OP. No big deal, certainly, but it has me curious. Anyway, I'm wondering how these International prospects, in places such as Venesuela, the Dominican Republic, and Puerto Rico have been impacted by the Coronavirus outbreak. Has training/games slowed to a crawl like in many other places?
  14. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/draft/ That link is more up-to-date than the one at MLB.com. It already has the Mayo signing, but not Baumler, as yet.
  15. Smh... I didn't realize that everyone who has said he is a great teammate are exaggerating the truth. A bunch of phonies and liars obviously. AND Martin never conducted an interview that discussed that particular topic. Wow. Gotcha. You even question his talents... despite all evidence to the contrary. Your words and agenda are revealing. I'm done with this.
  16. You didn't disrespect me... it's all good, my friend. I watch videos like others do, but do not have a great feel for what I'm seeing, at least compared to some. I know that Kjerstad played a small sample size this season (67 AB's) like everyone else, and mostly against inferior competition (like most others), that upped the view of some scouts, and perhaps the O's as well. Maybe they saw what you did. I don't know. I have said I believe Kjerstad will be an above average to very good pro player (and may even make an all-star team a time or two), I was adamantly in favor of who I believed was the superior player. Yet, if Kjerstad indeed becomes among the top players from this draft at the big league level, then it will have been a good pick, even if Martin outperforms him... just not necessarily the right pick. I just think Elias will have to hit on one or both of the two HS kids to close the gap I suspect we'll see. I will always compare Martin's career to Kjerstad, and as I've repeated, I hope that Kjerstad kills it for us and that Elias proves to have made great picks for us, no matter what Martin does.
  17. Thanks Frobby. I hope the 'highest level of pro' Elias crushes me like the amateur draftnik I am!! To be clear about the OP... it was not an easy exercise, but I felt that by forcing rules upon myself it made for a more fair way to see what may have been if had we took the path most felt we were going to; by taking Martin and then onward from there. Guys like McMahon at 30 and Van Eyk at 39 may be far removed from where the O's ranked them and Elias likely would have taken completely different players. I suspect Westburg would still have gone at 30. Anyway, it was cool to do.
  18. Wow... "...a fella like that." Interesting. So, as you say, "Everything I have seen from Kjerstad is a guy who has taken every opportunity to not only make himself better by facing varied competition but also has a great desire to be a great teammate in the clubhouse." Yet, nothing you have seen points to the exact same from Martin? That was simple enough to find. Here's more from SI.com, Hmmmm.... again, interesting. Everything I've read and listened to from every major analyst, coach, or teammate paint Martin as a leader that pushes his teammates to be their best. He wants to win badly and has worked very hard to get where he is, while trying to get his teammates or "family" as he calls them, to rise with him. He has played against the best competition at all levels. Talent aside, he is everything you say Kjerstad is, yet you see Kjerstad an an upstanding fella and Martin as, well, a fella like that... a red flag, because...? Oh yeah, Martin wore a tee shirt supporting a just cause that every GM in baseball supported during the draft. Or is it because you believe Kjerstad comes from, "exceptional families," and will make us proud, but Martin does not and will not? I replied because you clearly painted one player one way, and another in a different way, by using many comparable terms and phrases. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I'll assume you haven't read enough about Martin and his qualities.
  19. Sorry, wasn't paying attention to the pay-walled section. I edited the OP to reflect that.
  20. Pay-walled... here is the beginning part:
  21. Good post. Speaking of Keith Law... Elias is a bright GM with a quality staff and as you said, time will tell how this draft plays out. Hopefully you and others can understand how I would be disappointed that we didn't take Keith Law's (and other's) #1 rated player (Austin Martin) and one lauded as among the best hitters and competitors in the draft in a long time. That idea had me excited. That's why I'm disappointed. However, in a couple of years we may look back and see that this was a good decision and worked out very well for us. That's what Elias gets paid to do... make important decisions. Sharing my thoughts was important to me, yet I still support Elias, as you do.
  22. I've read this thing about how two other teams passed on Martin, as if that validates anything. Perhaps Martin was asking for 1st pick slot, which may be may be why the Marlins and Royals passed, rather than talent. We'll never know. I agree that Kjerstad is well-regarded and stated so earlier in the thread, but I believe the talent gap between he and Martin is significant. I see Austin Martin as a perennial all-star and Kjerstad as an above average regular with the upside to be even better and make an all-star team a couple of times. Of course we'd have to say that Baumler and Mayo should factor into the equation as well. Add their careers to Kjerstad and maybe that would show just why this was a great move by Elias. Who knows... Elias may have been annoyed with Martin/Boras' asking price and decided to go the underslot route. Again, we'll never know. I can only judge things based on my (very) limited understanding of these prospects and the events that unfolded. We may find out some important things in the days, months or years to come, shedding light on this draft and why Elias did what he did. This thread was an opportunity for me to share my thoughts in a manner that (I felt) was done with respect. I finished the OP by saying that I hope that Elias proves out in the end. I'd LOVE it if this draft is considered a great one years from now and then I'll happily say I was wrong (who am I anyway?) and Go O's.
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