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  1. What do I want from this rebuild? I want us to develop not just a team, but an organization, one where we have a steady stream of young players to replace the older players who inevitably age and decline in performance or get overpriced. I don't just want 3-4 years of competing for a spot in the playoffs, but a serious restructuring from single A to the MLB, and making an organizational philosophy that works. While I I'm not old enough to have lived through the late 60s and 70s teams, I do remember the '79 and '83 teams and World Series appearances and victory in '83. I remember growing up hearing about the Orioles Way and the magic. It seems that for much of my adult life we've been kind of a hapless organization. Even when we were winning under Buck and Dan it didn't appear sustainable as there wasn't a clear plan to put us in a place where we could compete each and every year. So I completely support this tear it down the bones and rebuild. I think that's seriously the only way we can become and consistently solid team and organization. My goals would be by the 2021 season to be seeing improvement in the MLB team due to the young talents players starting to trickle up from the minors, be threatening in '22 with a strong nucleus of top young talent and then be serious contenders in '23 and most seasons thereafter. Sure, I know we will have a down year here and there, but I echo others that would love us to the Cardinals, consistently good, and often in the playoffs. Once you get into some short series' anything can happen. And I'm very willing to see them burn it down and rebuild if that's what it's going to take. I think Elias is doing it the right way, the proper way, and I expect to see results we can be proud of in a couple of seasons.
  2. Exactly. So none of us yet know if the 10 million a year being thrown around is close to what the market will bear. Personally I think he signs somewhere for around 7 million a year, probably a 2-3 year deal at 14-21 million. I don't think he was worth 10 million a year, and certainly not worth that to the Orioles. I'll miss watching him play as he was entertaining. But our focus needs to be down the road and not this year. I certainly don't know if the money saved will be invested into the franchise... none of us do. But we all admit the changes we are making internationally, analytically and organizationally aren't free. Maybe freeing up this cash expedites some of the growth. Maybe it doesn't. I'll never be able to prove it does.... nor can the Elias detractors prove it isn't. But at this point I'm trusting in the process and Villar is a minor issue to me.
  3. Here are my thoughts on what went down, and why we are at this point with Villar. For the record I voted I don't know, but I trust Elias' judgment. I think they slightly miscalculated both the interest he would have in this off season and how much money he would get in arb. While there may have been deals over the summer for him, none were worth taking. Elias probably felt that keeping him and hopefully trading him this winter was preferable to trading him over the summer for a 'bag of balls'. However the market did not materialize over this off season like he'd hoped and now the decision had to be made how much to pay Villar since it didn't appear we could now unload him. Yeah, maybe this is all a ploy to get those teams that are mildly interested to pony up, but I don't get that feeling. We are not in a position where it makes sense to overpay for ANY player. We have no choice but to overpay for Davis, cut him or not. But we DO have the choice to overpay VIllar or cut ties with him. Yeah, I know going by WAR even at 10M a year Villar has value. But he isn't a key part of rebuild, so paying him 10M a year just doesn't make a ton of sense. In hindsight perhaps we should have taken some marginal prospects over the summer, if that was really offered. That would have been better than getting nothing or having to overpay (from the Orioles perspective) to keep Villar on the team. So I think perhaps Elias goofed and misread what the situation would be this winter. I can see us taking a rule 5 player or two, young ones, and give them the at bats Villar would have gotten. While it's a roll of the dice, at least those rule 5ers have a chance to be a part of the next good Orioles team, whenever that happens. Villar doesn't.
  4. That must have sucked for their acting careers....
  5. Yes, but only if the NL adopted the DH. I agree with others in this thread of my extreme dislike of the pitcher hitting. It's hard for me to watch NL baseball because of it to be honest.
  6. I know most of the young arms are still a bit away, but I'd really rather seem some kids get the chance who have a chance to show their stuff versus a retread, even one with Orioles history like KG. Granted he isn't hat old, and will only be 29 come next spring. I know we need someone to take innings, but I'd rather it be young guys with some potential upside. That being said I wouldn't be surprised if we do sign a few reclaim types and KG would certainly fit that bill.
  7. I defer to those with more knowledge on how things work than I, but I wonder if the reason we are going pitcher heavy is that is something we can fairly easily measure by analytics. Especially in a situation where we didn't have many boots on the ground in the form of scouts earlier, it seems we could bring in pitchers, put them on a mound, and measure things like velocity, spin rate, etc easier than we can hitters attributes when we invite them in. Again, I could be way off, but that makes sense to me.
  8. Another up the middle defender, this time from high school. Only 17, looks like some potential there.
  9. Song just went right before we were able to pick again. I wonder if we'd have taken him.
  10. I was going off Luke saying this guy was more of a 6th to 8th round. That certainly sounds like and underslot to me, though I realize he was ranked 111th, or roughly mid 4th round, on MLB.com.
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