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I pretty much agree with this assessment. But it is hard to grade a rebuild in the middle of it as we won’t see the actual fruits of it for a couple of more years. I do think about this one in comparison to McPhail’s sometimes. At this stage in McPhail’s (3 years in) the O’s had the worst record in baseball and, honestly, things weren’t looking promising. Then Buck was hired, they traded for JJ, Duquette became GM, Manny showed up, and they went on a terrific five year run. I think this rebuild is more sustainable because they’re building a better infrastructure but I also think the d

Yeah, and he got very little for his trade chip, Eddie Murray (Ken Howell, Brian Holton, & Juan Bell). He was able to flip Howell for Bradley. The Boddicker trade (for Brady Anderson & Curt Schilling), though, was fantastic, although neither player was a major contributor in '89.

Brady sat down for a podcast in the spring that sheds some light on his philosophy. It’s been a while since I listened to it but he does talk about analytics favorably. Not much mention of the international market. https://www.mlb.com/news/orioles-anderson-executive-access-podcast/c-270578884

The reality is that we just do not know who is accountable for this mess because the organization's decision-making is poorly structured.

True but the 1992 O’s would’ve made the playoffs in today’s format and the ‘94 Orioles were 2.5 games out of the playoffs when the strike started. I would also argue that the Glenn Davis trade seriously dragged down the potential of those teams.

Roy - do you have any sense of how involved Peter is now? Will the sons be making these decisions?

We’re 12-42 in our last 54 (1/3 of a season), a cool .222 winning percentage.

Your idea is actually similar to the approach the late 80’s O’s took - rebuild around Cal (then 27) - instead of trading him for prospects. The difference was that Cal was under contract and the economics of the game were very different.

Good post. For those looking for hope, the 2002 Angels started 6-14 and won the World Series. On top of that, they ended 2001 by going 2-19. BTW, I think it’s highly unlikely that the Orioles even have a winning record.

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I'm an optimist but I just don't see the 2018 team being competitive. Being an optimist I like our position player young talent (Schoop, Mancini, Hays, Sisco, Mullins, Mountcastle) so I start thinking 2019 and beyond. I'd extend Schoop and try to get young talent (especially pitching) for Manny, Britton, Brach, & Jones between now and February. That said, I don't expect the O's to follow this approach.

I don't know but I think it's plausible with the increase in TV ratings. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The whole CTE thing has really dampened my enthusiasm for football. Being aware of what the sport is doing to the players long-term has made it hard for me to watch the sport with a clear conscience. I still check on the Ravens but I don't plan my life around the Ravens and Sunday Ticket anymore. As for the state of TV, I really think at some point in the next 20-30 years that there will be very few, if any, TV channels the way we know them now. I watch shows, sports, and news pretty much whenever I want to, not necessarily when they are broadcast. In fact, I honestly have no idea what ti

If everyone is healthy I think Bundy is in the pen for at least the first month or two. They'll still want to conserve his innings. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Did 1990's Peter Angelos start this thread? The one who fired Johnny Oates? The one who forced Davey Johnson & Pat Gillick out after 2 playoff appearances? The one who fired Frank Wren for not holding a plane? Firing Buck for one bad decision, when few other managers would have even had this team in that position, would be similar to those ill-fated decisions.