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  1. Could not agree more....just a truly tremendous endeavor, and one of the best features of the site. I also love the “another take” feature, which really adds another layer of depth to the analysis. Thanks for all the work, gents.
  2. To your first point, we would still have a big TV deal, because everyone does now. But sure, because we’re taking a bunch of their money, yea we make more. Still, you’re going with the rising tide raises all ships argument? On attendance, of course it’s a SWAG, but respectfully, don’t be obtuse dude. Let me ask you directly, again: do you not think a team moving 40 miles down the road, to a bigger metropolis from which we have traditionally pulled significant attendance, did not have a substantial impact on O’s attendance? Question is simple. I never, ever, ever said our atrocious W/L record didn’t have a huge role, but please. Use common sense. Finally, on your last point, I do.... 13 times a year, from Shaw in DC.
  3. Most of these are valid points, which I acknowledge in my post - OF COURSE the losing incessantly was a huge factor. And thanks, I obviously looked at attendance numbers, which I referenced at length in my post. However, it’s pretty simple to me: do you dispute that the arrival of the Nationals, 40 miles away and located in the larger of the two metropolises from which the Orioles drew attendance, had a substantial impact on the gate? Not the only impact, but certainly a substantial one? That’s all I’m saying. I thought that was clear, I understand you’re a DC guy, but it’s kind of illogical to argue impact. And on your comment about resenting DC fans....not me, friend. Their money is still green.
  4. I cheer vociferously against the Nationals, and was a bit dismayed to see them win for a simple reason: on the whole, I think it’s bad for the Orioles. Now, part of this also is that I live in DC and am surrounded by Nats fans, which is annoying (though, like others, I’ve got good friends who are real fans for whom I’m individually happy). I also take the point that I believe Drungo made that there is some value in having another club close by succeed because it puts more pressure on the O’s to get their you-know-what together. But, ultimately, I still see the O’s-Nats competition as something of a zero sum rivalry for fans and support, especially in the battleground areas of MD. Certainly those of us on this board and those like us aren’t very likely to switch teams, but for the casual O’s fan that lives in, say, Annapolis or Howard County, it’s a much more real risk. Anecdotally, I can point to 3-4 people at work who have done exactly that while the Orioles were wandering in the desert all those years. The casual fan is much more likely to gravitate to a winner when all else is equal. That’s money that this club needs. I also disagree with the arguments that minimize the resulting impact on attendance, those that point to the fact that in the first year of the Nats, 2005, Orioles attendance stayed relatively high at 32k per game. However, you’ve got to remember that was the first year in a while that we were exciting and actually competitive - remember, we were 49-40 around the break, and I believe in first place, before cratering horribly in the second half (accentuated by all the Palmeiro steroid stuff). I would contend that our early contention probably helped bolster attendance numbers; certainly not by a ton, but at least by a bit. (I recognize that most tickets are sold early.) I remember the palpable excitement around that team. Moreover, I’d argue that it’s reasonable to expect a more gradual drop over time. Look at Orioles attendance the five years before the Nationals move, and the five years after (in thousands, rounded to nearest thousand): 41, 39, 33, 30, 34 before the move, and 32, 27, 27, 25, 24 after. We were lousy all of those years. Of course, the latter years we’d been lousy for longer, so apathy and disinterest has longer to take hold, but I don’t know how anyone can dispute their arrival had a substantial effect. Of course, it wasn’t the ONLY factor, but tough to argue against that trendline. That’s 35.4k average before, 27k average the five years after. Again, I’m NOT arguing that we can’t compete because they are here, nor am I saying that there aren’t other factors (of course) in the decline in support for the team...so you can stow those straw men. I’m just saying that their presence, and even more so their success, on the whole directly negatively impacts, but of course does not eliminate, the Orioles’ chances of winning. It’s less support and less revenue. Thus, despite some of the feel good-ness of the Nats winning (it’s a likable team, and bless you if you’re into the baby shark thing....not for me), it’s ultimately not good for the Orioles, in my view. And frankly, that’s all I really care about.
  5. I think we all have an uncle who would be fine with just STARZ Westerns.
  6. I agree. They need to at least be creative and try. It's why they pay their marketing department. Understanding there may be something yet to replace it, I still hold that leaking that there will be no FanFest without having something readily in place to replace it is not wise for a team in the midst of a brutal downswing and a full rebuild. This is when they should be MOST engaged with the fan base to try to generate excitement and preserve loyalty. Especially, ya know, when you consider that the annoying team down the street may be on the verge of hanging their first World Series banner. It's a bad look. I'm surprised more people don't feel that way.
  7. Even if it hasn’t been highly successful in recent years, I think it’s a bad look to skip it, especially in the midst of a rebuild. Just don’t love the message it sends to the fan base. I’d hope they reconsider.
  8. Thanks for posting, pretty good article. A little concerning to hear about focus and complacency issues in a young player, and it makes you wonder if yet another year in AA contributed to that. Hope that starting the year at AAA next year (presumably, at least) can motivate him and lock him in a bit.
  9. That. Or the Yankees fans shoving their 27 or whatever rings in our face 19 times every year. I'd rather have the former. Honestly, I'm most interested in being competitive as frequently as possible. And, to me, that's clearly easier in the NL East. So yes, I'd change in a heartbeat.
  10. This is an awesome idea. Well done, O’s.
  11. I’m virtually positive there is not. I think you can walk part of the way along the overpass, but then you have to take a series of stairs down to ground level, which I suspect is not well-trafficked at night after a game. Caveat is that I’ve done that walk like twice, a long time ago, and fairly, frankly, inebriated, so I don’t remember a lot of the specifics.
  12. Interesting and insightful, as always, thanks man. Shame we missed out on him, but sometimes this kind of thing will just happen I guess. Happy for him, though, and wish him the best.
  13. We’ve obviously beaten the whole Yaz thing to death, but I’m curious if Luke or others have looked closely into why they think he’s had success in SF, and if perhaps there’s something we missed in his development. Did they change his swing or stance or otherwise unlock something that perhaps our folks didn’t see? Certainly don’t want to draw too much of a comparison, because it’s obviously a totally different situation, but I’m thinking a Jake Arrietta type deal where the Giants were able to make some tweaks to a flawed player’s game and make him viable. (Understand fully that Jake has all the tools there, was just able to harness them, and Yaz is a different deal.) Mostly water under the bridge, and this is just one that didn’t go our way clearly, just curious if there was something identifiable (aside from starting to get to hit this ridiculous major league ball) that flipped the switch for him.
  14. Agreed, let's see what he can do. Not like we've got a bunch of Cy Young contenders blocking his way in the rotation....call him up and give him 2-3 starts.
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